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To: Uncledave

He's also a gun grabber. Was Reagan a gun grabber?


2 posted on 07/30/2005 5:57:40 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg

If he changes his gun graber and pro abortion views he may have a chance. If not he is toast.


5 posted on 07/30/2005 6:02:07 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
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To: cyborg
Maybe he conceded the gun issue because he knew he couldn't survive in NY otherwise. Besides, every national politician, even (especially) those on the far left know that guns is a live wire, sure to shorten a political career faster than you can say Rosie O'Donell.

No, Ronnie wasn't a gun-grabber, but he was divorced like Rudy, but Rudy doesn't have rotten kids biting at his ankles...;^)

11 posted on 07/30/2005 6:06:45 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: cyborg

Try to buy a Class 3 manufactured after 1986...


13 posted on 07/30/2005 6:08:02 AM PDT by Modok
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To: cyborg

Juliani is a liberal Republican who believes in abortion and gay marriage etc. I can not in good conscience vote for him although I like the guy.


18 posted on 07/30/2005 6:14:37 AM PDT by bronxboy (Blessed to live in the USA)
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To: cyborg; Mulder
Does this statement by Giuliani on gun control fit the definition of "gun grabber?"

"I do not think the government should cut off the right to bear arms. My position for many years has been that just as a motorist must have a license, a gun owner should be required to have one as well. Anyone wanting to own a gun should have to pass a written exam that shows that they know how to use a gun, that they're intelligent enough and responsible enough to handle a gun. Should both handgun and rifle owners be licensed...we're talking about all dangerous weapons."

Source: Boston Globe, p. A4 Mar 21, 2000 via On the Issues

23 posted on 07/30/2005 6:26:15 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: cyborg

he wouldn't bring that agenda to the presidency, and in any case, he would be checked by congress in the blink of an eye.

Rudy is the only person with whom the american people have any connection with regarding 9-11, in the positive sense for leadership, etc.

I say he's the VP candidate - Allen/Rudy is looking good to me.


30 posted on 07/30/2005 6:41:29 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: cyborg

I'd vote for Guiliani in a heartbeat.


48 posted on 07/30/2005 6:58:26 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: cyborg

You're from New York. You have to admit that Guiliani was the best thing that happanened to NY, right?


50 posted on 07/30/2005 6:59:23 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: cyborg; All
He's also a gun grabber. Was Reagan a gun grabber?

He was not a gun grabber per se but a proponent on gun licensing and "testing". The more troublesome Giuliani record is on abortion. Even though he did little as mayor to affect policy on it, he uttered statements which suggested he was very pro-abort and would even give his own daughter the money to have an abotion (a hypothetical, as he didn't have a daughter).

However Giuliani is by far the strongest candidate the GOP has to fight terror and take on our Islamist enemies. Unlike Bush, whose alliance with the Saudi family led to disturbing P.C. moments...you can be assured Rudy will never take his shoes of in a mosque or say the words "religion of peace". He despises Arabs, a pre-requisite for anyone leading our nation, in my opinion. His record with Arafat, Bin Talaweed and others makes that clear. We need someone who views Islam as the enemy and not a "great religion".

But the main problem with Giuliani is on abortion. It is not really a close call. He needs to do a serious mea culpa on it, show that he supports the PBA law, etc. Even then it will be tough for him to win evangelical support without some serious outreach. (Then again, with Frist out of the way....)

McCain will be 72 in 2008, and even nano robots can keep him healthy that long. Romney is inconsistent and odd. George Allen doesn't seem to have the mental capacity required. Condi Rice is an even worse speaker than Hillary. And Mike Pence is a mere Congressman. So besides Giuliani, who else is there? I am getting concerned.

59 posted on 07/30/2005 7:12:38 AM PDT by montag813
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To: cyborg
If I can't have a Jeb Bush/Rice ticket, I'd settle for Giuliani/Rice. He thinks fast on his feet, expresses himself clearly and persuasively and would leave Hitlery looking foolish and gasping for air in any debate.
65 posted on 07/30/2005 7:30:10 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: cyborg
He's also a gun grabber. Was Reagan a gun grabber?

The Gipper was staunchly pro-life. Is Rudy pro-life?



I'll point out for the record what you already well know my dear: the Gipper gameplan succeeded because of CONTENT, not strategy. A pro-abortion, anti-gun Ronald Reagan would have failed, and barely been noticed by history at all.

162 posted on 07/30/2005 10:18:40 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: HitmanNY; MikeinIraq
Allegra could tell you...

It's hotter'n a whorehouse on Nickel Night.

It's been hitting up around 120 these days, which is actually cooler than last summer here at this time.

It's all relative, I guess. ;-)

437 posted on 07/31/2005 12:11:07 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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