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1 posted on 07/30/2005 5:55:36 AM PDT by Uncledave
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He's also a gun grabber. Was Reagan a gun grabber?


2 posted on 07/30/2005 5:57:40 AM PDT by cyborg
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Just what we need. Another gun-grabbing statist that thinks the Bill of Rights is obsolete.


3 posted on 07/30/2005 5:59:18 AM PDT by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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I wouldn't count him out. Anything is possible, including a deathbed conversion. People come late in life to some views. Whether it would help Rudy Guiliani remains to be seen. We haven't had a President of Italian background yet.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
4 posted on 07/30/2005 5:59:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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since it is 2005, I am a candidate too!!

Rudy theoretically could win it. However, it won't sell nationwide in the primaries...

I view Rudy as one of those candidates that would win the election on a national scale, but would lose the primaries preceeding it.


7 posted on 07/30/2005 6:03:18 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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Thoughts the beast does not want you to read let alone consider!


8 posted on 07/30/2005 6:04:56 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Giuliani is pro-abortion, pro gay rights, and anti-gun. 'Nuff said?


12 posted on 07/30/2005 6:07:56 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Pro-abortion---womanizer---can't win the primary.

Since Frist went to the dark side on stem cell research, it's wide open again. I was putting money on Frist to take it. Putting money on Allen now.


15 posted on 07/30/2005 6:09:41 AM PDT by randita
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Don't sell Rudy short. His three marriages will hurt him. He took on the mob including Gotti and put many of them away. He took a pro-abortion stance in NYC to get elected mayor twice. I predict he will he will swing to the right and support parental notification as well as a ban on partial birth abortion. I'd take him over McCain anyday.


16 posted on 07/30/2005 6:12:41 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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On 9/11 the city was shaken and knocked down. Rudy was the first one up. He insisted on a positive news release every day after that. News of progress, of recovery, every day. We were his after that.

Not only did he tell a Saudi prince to take his money back after it was offered with strings attached that bashed America, but he also once kicked Yasser Arafat out of a Lincoln Center function for New York City to which the Mother of All Terrorists had not been invited

Go Rudy !


17 posted on 07/30/2005 6:14:02 AM PDT by Syberyenta
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No and Hell no.

If he's anti-gun and pro-abortion, why is this guy any different than little richie daley and the rest of the dems?


19 posted on 07/30/2005 6:17:13 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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With Gipper's game plan, Rudy can win it all

Yea right, I see Rudy doing well in south and midwest. They love NY'ers ya know
24 posted on 07/30/2005 6:26:45 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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I swear these articles are paid for by Hillary.

Hillary would beat him into the ground.

Rudy doesn't have a chance in the primaries.

He won't win anything in the SW or South and there it stands.

Hell, people, in a national election he won't even win his own state of NY!
25 posted on 07/30/2005 6:28:06 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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As governor of California, Ronald Reagan signed the most permissive abortion law in the country. Rudy, can you hear me?

Which Reagan would live to regret and later said was one of his biggest mistakes as governor of CA.

A**hole Thomas Roeser, can you hear me?

26 posted on 07/30/2005 6:28:38 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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Rudy cannot use Gipper's game plan because he is NOT the gipper. Neither philosophically, morally, politically...or in any other way IMHO. Rudy is Rudy.


27 posted on 07/30/2005 6:33:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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If Bush can get enough strong, conservative judges on the SCOTUS and lower courts, Rudy's abortion views won't matter because Roe would be overturned (or at the very least, severely restricted) and abortion would be an issue left to the states.

Unless the general population takes a major shift to the left (and with no liberal court to legislate from the bench?), gay marriage could be a nearly dead issue.

I like him. He's almost "untouchable" by the democrats due to his 9/11 performance and his past moderate views. Plus, all of his dirty laundry is already hanging out there, so no surprises...

I think he could win it all.

If Republicans play this right, we could actually claim to be on both sides of every issue. What would the democrats do then?? Attack us for our "big tent?" LOL


33 posted on 07/30/2005 6:43:06 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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Rudy like all Northern Republicans have to be liberal on some social issues merely to survive politically in those states. It is very often the fact that once a politician leaves the home state for national politics their platforms change radically.

I believe a Guliani/Rice ticket would be unbeatable and would so hurt the demonrats that they may even cease to exist as a party. A Guliani/Rice ticket would give Republicans the Catholic vote, The New York vote, and the Black vote. It would be a landslide not seen since Reagan.


34 posted on 07/30/2005 6:43:39 AM PDT by Sentis (Visit the Conservative Hollywood http://www.boondockexpansionist.org/phpBB/)
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Also Rudi might be more attractive to social conservatives if the Supreme Court has already overturned Roe v. Wade prior to 2008 election. President, there would be little damage that Rudi could do, especially if the Republicans continue to have anywhere near half of the Senate.


36 posted on 07/30/2005 6:44:46 AM PDT by Dave S
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Works for me. Rudy is a well suited

That really is the most important issue: just as many GOPers insist that dems should stand down and do whats best for national security, they should take their own advice and select a president well suited for the next phase on the war on terrorism, and realize that, for example, on the abortion issue, abortion isn't going away in our lifetimes (that battle was lost) and that Rudy needs to be on the right side of the 2008 abortion issues (parental notification/public funding/partial birth) and not on the right side of the 1973 abortion issue (should abortion be legal).

We lost the 1973 issue but should win the 2008 issues. Change in abortion policy nationally will only come when there is a generational shift in opinion - that's a long way away.

Further, as I have pointed out on FR in the past, those fixated on Roe and Casey decisions need to understand that should Roe/Casey get overturned, the decision to regulate it will be left up to the states. I don't see any states in the union where abortion would be enforced as outright illegal.

Any pro lifer who beleives that it would needs a reality check. Sad to say, a change in abortion policy will only come when more people change their minds about it. That's a long way off: passing a law won't do it.


38 posted on 07/30/2005 6:45:31 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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Rudy is Not anything like Ronald Reagan and if the GOP thinks they can sell him as such...they need to THINK AGAIN!


40 posted on 07/30/2005 6:49:11 AM PDT by kalee
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Giuliani really was an incredible leader for NYC on 9/11. He did do a GREAT job of getting rid of sex shops and the crime and prostitution that went with them.

I admire Rudy Giuliani. I think he's a good man.

Having said that his personal luggage and his liberal views would doom him in the primaries. I wish him a long, happy and healthy life.
41 posted on 07/30/2005 6:49:22 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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