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With Gipper's game plan, Rudy can win it all
Chi Sun Times ^ | July 30, 2005 | THOMAS ROESER

Posted on 07/30/2005 5:55:36 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: Clemenza
Worthless RINO and the most OVERRATED politician in the US.

AMEN.

Another McCain, "The Darling of the Left-Wing Media" (and various and sundry RINO-RUDY-LOVING-KOOLAID-DRINKING-NUTJOBS-ON-FR & DU)

281 posted on 07/30/2005 12:06:12 PM PDT by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Sentis

You're not worth talking to.


282 posted on 07/30/2005 12:06:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Freedom and Islam are utterly incompatible...)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Al Gore hasnt been seen as a Southerner for twenty years. He also came very close to winning never forget we are winning by almost impossibly thin margins. Hillery will win Ohio or Florida unless we get a candidate that can win New York of Califonia we are lost.


283 posted on 07/30/2005 12:07:05 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: DocH

> ...a "motorist" does not have a Constitutional RIGHT to own and use a vehicle. A law-abiding citizen who wants to buy, own, and use a firearm DOES.

You yourself qualify the phrase "shall not be infringed" when you say the right to bear arms belongs to "a law-abiding citizen."

> If we allow a northeastern liberal RINO with such gun-grabbing, government knows best, tendencies to gain power outside of his region, which is lost to the socialists already...

LOL Come on up some time. I know some socialists in Cambridge who'd like to grab your gun ;-)


284 posted on 07/30/2005 12:07:17 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: EternalVigilance

Then don't.


285 posted on 07/30/2005 12:08:50 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: JCEccles

They are the Howard Deans of FR.


286 posted on 07/30/2005 12:16:27 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Sentis
Hillery will win Ohio or Florida unless we get a candidate that can win New York of Califonia we are lost.

Hillary wil not win OH or FL, FL is trending Republican, and Ohio was only close due to local matter - economy and the Taft administration in Ohio.

As for NY or CA, the only way we win them is if we have a forty state sweep. Federal elections are simple, states fall in a certain order from red to blue. A GOP win without OH and with NY or CA is a damn near impossiblity.

Last election Bush got 63 million votes, if we want that many votes again we better find someone a lot like him or it is over.

287 posted on 07/30/2005 12:16:42 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I would caution you to be careful. I believe the pendulim will swing back in the direction of Christianity. Now I, and I'm sure you, would be happy to see this, except for one glaring problem that will raise it's ugly head.

We know we live in an imperfect world. We know that Satan has always tried to confound those who would do good. With this in mind, you must realize who some of the leading people will be, when this swing occurs.

The likes of Bill and Hillary Clinton will read the tea leaves. Some leading representatives of Hollywierd will read them. Many in the MSM will profess a new found "faith". Many public officials will make that some pronouncement.

I'm just trying to point out, that when the swing back to Christianity occurs, those leading the crusade will more than likely be people who have no foundation in it. They will shout down those trying to represent true Christianity.

In that environment, this person may have a very valid point. It won't be Christianity, but none the less Christians will be saddled with the blame.


288 posted on 07/30/2005 12:16:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Clemenza
Worthless RINO and the most OVERRATED politician in the US.

Not to mention that 9/11 will be a seven year old event in 2008. The voters memories are not that long so the one thing Rudy has going for him will get him nowhere.

289 posted on 07/30/2005 12:18:59 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: Uncledave

If Rudy got the GOP nomination, I would vote for a third party ticket--that much is for sure.


290 posted on 07/30/2005 12:20:13 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to be as SHAMELESS for the truth as leftists are for a lie?)
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To: Uncledave

It isn't about abortion. When Giuliani ran against Hillary he had the same position as her on almost every issue. On abortion, he was just to the left of Hillary.


291 posted on 07/30/2005 12:21:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Fl may trend Republican but it daily experiences a huge influx of democrat voting Northerners. This is enough of a problem that the state will turn to Democrats long before the 2008 election. The democrats don't want us to discuss this issue because their planners know they have Fl. Ohio is icing on the ckae and it is so close that I am calling it for Hillery based on on specualtion that the fix is in.

That last isn't absolutly true Ohio will go where it will go. NY will vote for Guliani and not Hillery and its that simple, if we nominate Guliani we win and win big if it is anyone else Hillery has more than a chance. The MSM is reporting right now about how Hillery will lose. What that means is they are being influenced to say it so we nominate the wrong person and insure her win.


292 posted on 07/30/2005 12:23:27 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: DoughtyOne

"The likes of Bill and Hillary Clinton will read the tea leaves. Some leading representatives of Hollywierd will read them. Many in the MSM will profess a new found "faith". Many public officials will make that some pronouncement."

Believe me, I am well aware of the enemy within and their goals.
1963 congressional record, communist goals
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.


293 posted on 07/30/2005 12:26:13 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: dubyaismypresident; Clemenza

"Not to mention that 9/11 will be a seven year old event in 2008."

We simply don't know if there will be a 9/11 or worse between now and then.....


294 posted on 07/30/2005 12:27:27 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Sentis
Fl may trend Republican but it daily experiences a huge influx of democrat voting Northerners

You've got a contradiction there. So check your premises.

And as for fixes and the MSM playing 2008 psy-ops with us already, grab your tinfoil.

295 posted on 07/30/2005 12:28:28 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Its not a contradiction. Fl has trended Republican but it will not be Republican in 2008 it is already a state that is almost too close to call. In 2008 20,000 more democrats will live there and Republicans will not be keeping up.


296 posted on 07/30/2005 12:30:37 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: Stellar Dendrite
We simply don't know if there will be a 9/11 or worse between now and then.....

That's also part of the problem. If there is another one. New people will get the credit for handling it well, it could be in LA it could be in NY it could be in any major population center. Also the current adminisration would probably get blamed for it happening.

It's a classic lose/lose situation: No incident = forgetful voters, New incident = changed dynamic.

The only safe thing to do is discount the politics of terror down to nothing as we quantify unknowables.

297 posted on 07/30/2005 12:31:51 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Thanks for the response. I appreciate the link.


298 posted on 07/30/2005 12:33:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Sentis
Its not a contradiction. Fl has trended Republican but it will not be Republican in 2008 it is already a state that is almost too close to call. In 2008 20,000 more democrats will live there and Republicans will not be keeping up.

So you are saying the migratory patters into Florida will be different from 2005-2008 than they were from 2001-2004? A lot yankees moved to FLA in 2001-2004 and the GOP gained.

Little known fact: about 250 Ohians move to Florida every day, roughly the same amount as New Yorkers.

299 posted on 07/30/2005 12:34:19 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: StoneGiant

"Perhaps he'll give Hillary a helping hand..."

On 3...Push?


300 posted on 07/30/2005 12:35:30 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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