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NASA: Another Shuttle Could Launch Soon
AP ^ | 7/29/05 | Marcia Dunn

Posted on 07/29/2005 1:25:32 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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1 posted on 07/29/2005 1:25:32 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The whole fuel tank fiasco could be solved by a simple call to D.C. asking the President to sign authorization for NASA to return to the old foam formulation. Maybe this time they can get the foam colored white like it's supposed to be.


2 posted on 07/29/2005 1:28:27 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The more I hear from Griffin, the more I like him.
3 posted on 07/29/2005 1:30:04 PM PDT by The_Victor (I'm adrift, my tagline just snapped)
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To: Little Pig

What is preventing this?


4 posted on 07/29/2005 1:30:18 PM PDT by naturalized (Some folks look at me and see a certain swagger, which in Texas is called walking.)
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To: Little Pig

The white color came from a paint/sealant that was applied on top of the foam. However, that paint weighted about a ton and was withheld to increase shuttle payload.


5 posted on 07/29/2005 1:31:45 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The way these things work there's no way the next launch will be soon. Director is just trying to sound upbeat after another tank foam failure.


6 posted on 07/29/2005 1:32:42 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Little Pig
Maybe this time they can get the foam colored white like it's supposed to be.

What made it white in the early missions was paint, which weighed (IIRC) a couple of thousand pounds. They stopped painting the tanks to increase payload capacity. The insulation itself has always been that orange/brown color. Painting the tanks wouldn't prevent foam from breaking off.

7 posted on 07/29/2005 1:35:30 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: KevinDavis
Ping for the Space list.

NFP

8 posted on 07/29/2005 1:35:34 PM PDT by Notforprophet (Democrats have stood their own arguments on their heads so often that they now stand for nothing.)
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To: Little Pig

Maybe this time they can get the foam colored white like it's supposed to be.



My understand is that the white color was paint, and the change to orange was associated with elimiating the paint to save weight, well before the foam material change.


9 posted on 07/29/2005 1:36:47 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I was actually thinking about that earlier today. Sort of sounds like a heavy duty aqua-net.


10 posted on 07/29/2005 1:37:45 PM PDT by MAEsser (The law is not about fairness, equality, or justice. It is about power.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Two Letters to the Editor in this morning's Dallas Morning News offered unique solutions to the problem. The first suggested shrink wrapping the tank, while the other suggested chicken wire with duct tape to secure the foam.

I like the shrink wrapping option!

11 posted on 07/29/2005 1:38:08 PM PDT by PlanoMike
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He said he has set up a "tiger team"

Great! We’re going to gay our way to a solution!

12 posted on 07/29/2005 1:38:10 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

We may only need to paint a region of the tank, not the whole thing, and maybe not even all the way around. Just something to seal it down.


13 posted on 07/29/2005 1:39:29 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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It was an alarming repeat of the problem that doomed Columbia in 2003, when a piece of foam knocked a hole in its left wing. The searing gases of re-entry melted the wing from the inside out, causing the spacecraft to disintegrate. All seven astronauts aboard died.

Does anyone here know what is the temperature of the re-entry?

14 posted on 07/29/2005 1:39:44 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Note to NASA

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting to get a different result.

Revert back to the old insulating foam formula and be done with it.

Best Regards

Sergio


15 posted on 07/29/2005 1:39:46 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: dead

NASA has used "Tiger Teams" for a long time. It's nothing but gay, in any sense.


16 posted on 07/29/2005 1:40:18 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: PlanoMike

Shrink wrap would shread and melt in a new york second.


17 posted on 07/29/2005 1:41:22 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Little Pig
I watched the entire Discovery channel return to flight a few weeks ago and I don't recall them mentioning a formulation change for the foam once.
18 posted on 07/29/2005 1:41:50 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

*Frank laughs at himself*

"It's nothing but gay, in any sense."

ANYTHING but gay, is what I MEANT to write... Oy!


19 posted on 07/29/2005 1:42:08 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Does anyone here know what is the temperature of the re-entry?

I’m not sure of the temperature, but I know that they’re going very very fast.


20 posted on 07/29/2005 1:43:20 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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