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Canada: A Nuisance Neighbour (And sometimes a malicious one, too)
The National Post ^ | July 27, 2005 | Harvey M. Sapolsky

Posted on 07/29/2005 8:42:49 AM PDT by quidnunc

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Harvey M. Sapolsky is Professor of Public Policy and Organization in the Department of Political Science and Director of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Security Studies Program.
1 posted on 07/29/2005 8:42:50 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
It is a shocking fact, because Americans are used to thinking that Canadians are our friends

Up until about 9/12. What Canada and the rest of the world doesn't understand is it's England this week and quite possibly them next week. These terrorists aren't going to only target US allies but any soft target. Canada, by it's own inaction, is definitely one of the easiest targets in the Western world.

2 posted on 07/29/2005 8:50:31 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: quidnunc

The CBC (our publicly funded liberal MSM) is hugely to blame for the shift. A few weeks back the Fraser Institute released the finding of a study pointedly showing how anti-American their reporting is. My tax dollars are siphoned off to this effort.

This aside, we need more conservative support from the US in our elections. Seems like your libs get firmly behind our libs and we're screwed. The last prime minister who was firmly behind the US was Mulroney in the Reagan years and the MSM buried him.

A plea for a little help next time around - and recall it's a minority government so with any luck that will come sooner than later.


3 posted on 07/29/2005 8:53:23 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: quidnunc

the SOUTH PARK movie warned us about them YEARS ago....


4 posted on 07/29/2005 8:56:27 AM PDT by podkane
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To: timsbella

BTW - addenda to my prior comments - most of the country outside of Toronto, Vancouver and Quebec -especially our prairie provinces- are very conservative and highly supportive of our neighbours. Alberta is distant from Texas only when counted in miles.


5 posted on 07/29/2005 8:58:19 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: quidnunc
Canada: America's Bad Toupee.
6 posted on 07/29/2005 9:02:07 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: quidnunc

Many Canadians agree with his position. The Liberals should be made to pay some price for policies that ultimately hurt Canada.


7 posted on 07/29/2005 9:03:08 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: quidnunc
Anti-Americanism is the unstated essence of the modern Canadian identity.

Unstated? Hardly.

The g*dd*mned Liberal Party has been beating the anti-American drum since Walter Gordon more than 40 years ago.

The sonofab*tch Trudeau did his best to kill actual Canadian values and replace them with a 'progressive' ideology.

A substantial minority of Canadians have never been seduced by Liberal lies, so there is still a kernel of hope that Trudeau's scheme will ultimately be defeated.

A small desperate hope perhaps, but that is the nature of kernels.

8 posted on 07/29/2005 9:06:49 AM PDT by headsonpikes ("The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government.")
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To: timsbella
"Anti-Americanism is the unstated essence of the modern Canadian Torontonian/Ottawa identity.

And you're correct, the CBC, the liberal media-billion dollar tax payer funded-left winged-Al-Jazerra of Canada network. The Anti American attitude isn't an across Canada issue, it is a regional one, spurred on by the likes of Carolyn Parish, Liberal, and the corrupt Liberal party.

As far as the border is concerned, it's weak on both sides, Canadians aren't responsible for who enters the USA, it's the USA's duty to protect it's borders, and who enters the country, And Canadians are responsible about who enters thiers. In Canada, they are "missing" 36,000 illegals who were supposed to have been deported. If you ask me, Canadians are at risk themselves having that many running around their coutry doing who knows what. When terrorism strikes Canada, and it will, they will hve no one to blame but themselves.

Here, we have no one to blame but ourselves for illegals entering the country. It's our duty to patrol our borders and keep illegals out. We have millions of illegals here and now, that we don't know who or where they are, or what they are doing. Rather than point fingers over who is in other countries, we should concern ourselves about who is in ours, and do something about it, rather than leave the gates wide open. I could give a rats arse about what's in Canada. That's their problem.

9 posted on 07/29/2005 9:18:50 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Low grade anti-Americanism on Canada's part is surely tolerable. It is probably the glue that holds Canada together, and Americans should want Canada to stick together. Otherwise, the U.S. might be paying for the Maritime provinces and trying to figure out what to do with Quebec.

No problem. Use Quebec to replace Vieques.

10 posted on 07/29/2005 9:21:58 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; ...
PING

Please let me know if you want on or off this Canada ping list

11 posted on 07/29/2005 9:24:22 AM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: quidnunc
This is a terrible article. The author makes a basic premise about Canada being "hostile" to the U.S., then proceeds to support his argument by listing a bunch of international treaties Canada is promoting/supporting -- treaties that will have absolutely NO IMPACT on the United States unless we ourselves sign on to these agreements.

In the 1960s, Canada began to drastically reduce its military, which until then had always been at Britain's side, if not America's. Canada's NATO contribution, never large, faded to insignificant long before the Berlin Wall came down in November, 1989. It withdrew its soldiers and airmen from Europe entirely at the end of the Cold War.

The author also overlooks some basic historical facts about Canada. Canada as we know it wasn't even really a "nation" until the 1960s (the maple leaf insignia on their flag wasn't adopted until 1964). Before that, it functioned in many ways as if it were still a British colony. In fact, to this day the Canadian government still functions in some ways as a part of the old British empire -- the Queen of England is the ceremonial head of state, and a Governor General is still appointed to serve as her representative in Ottawa.

Canada's diminished military capability is less a function of its aversion to military matters than its structure as a "confederation" of provinces rather than a "nation" along the lines of the United States. Ironically, Canada today probably functions in a manner that adheres more closely than the U.S. to the ideals envisioned by the Founding Fathers of the United States back in the 1790s. Most of the power is vested in the provincial governments, and the Federal government in Ottawa -- despite its corruption and excessive taxation -- is largely incapable of governing the nation as a whole.

12 posted on 07/29/2005 9:26:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: quidnunc

I'd also point out our army isn't 60, 000; it's under 50, 000.


13 posted on 07/29/2005 9:30:52 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: Alberta's Child

The leftist, Anti American mood in Ontario is very simular, if not ideentical to the leftist anti- Americanism in NY and the left coast. In fact they follow the exact same agenda. Lets not forget that leftist media here in the USA also owns much of leftist media in Canada as well.

In Canada, the leftist Liberals get about 32% of the popular vote, yet retain power in Ottawa because of a monopoly of seats concentrated in 2 provences, Ontario and Qubec, with Quebec voting largely for a separtist party, which somehow is allowed to sit in parlement, even though they do not represent any other part of canada besides Q-bec.
The majority of Canadians are actually conservative, and much more friendly towards the USA. they just can't get into power unless they gain seats in Ontario. Elections in Canada are over before the western provences go to the polls.
The liberals have a dictatorship like grip on Canada, which won't change until either western Canada separates, or somehow conservatives manage to get a foothold in Ontario.


14 posted on 07/29/2005 9:39:22 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: quidnunc

That yank don't know nothing!


15 posted on 07/29/2005 9:39:34 AM PDT by Pippin ( This complicates things a bit!)
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To: quidnunc

I was to Saskatchewan just last month, I I didn't feel any sort of hostility towards Anmericans there,you must mean thoes folks in Eastern Canada, eh?


16 posted on 07/29/2005 9:42:21 AM PDT by Pippin ( This complicates things a bit!)
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To: fanfan
The liberal yanks in Massachusettes KNOW NOTHING!

I did not feel like I was treated with any kind of hostility when I went to Saskatchewan last June.

(of course I'm part Canadian, but they didn't know that)

17 posted on 07/29/2005 9:44:50 AM PDT by Pippin ( This complicates things a bit!)
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"Canada's NATO contribution, never large... "

Forgive me for nit-picking, but at the foundation of NATO and for several years thereafter, Canada had the second-largest tactical air force in W. Europe after the US. They also had a big part in keeping the sea lanes of communication between No. Am. and Europe clear by ASW and convoy escort in the event the balloon went up. A significant contributor by any lights.

18 posted on 07/29/2005 9:54:25 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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Not that one little Canadian freeper here can make a difference, but I agree with you. But I completely support y'all 100%.
God Bles America!


19 posted on 07/29/2005 9:55:57 AM PDT by petpeeve
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Not that one little Canadian freeper here can make a difference, but I agree with you. But I completely support y'all 100%.
God Bless America!


20 posted on 07/29/2005 9:56:12 AM PDT by petpeeve
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