Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat
Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)
Moving your outstanding post over to the new thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1452328/posts?page=976#976
To: TexKat
Good for you, Tex.
JimRob permits a lot of leeway in allowing threads and subjects not remotely connected with the stated purpose of this forum.......conservative politics, philosophy and culture.
Too many unthinking posters take advantage of Jim's big tent by utilizing various threads as chat rooms and koffee klatch forums. I'm surprised there are no recipes posted on the Holloway threads by some.
I'm not in the least bit interested in the weather at your house, what you snacked on before going to bed too late, and your kid's progress at school.
There are many knowledgeable posters on this "true crime" series of threads. I'm interested in their information and theories.....and comparing their thoughts with mine.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate MATURE commentators who stay on topic and realize these Natalie threads are not about THEM and their personal lives.....or about their petty, eye-glazing squabbles which serve only to drive readers away from a perfectly fine ongoing thread.
Leni
Believe I'd take Aruba, any day. The Missus and I have been vacationing there for a number of years (we have a timeshare)and I can't imagine a more relaxing, peaceful spot on the planet.
Human nature being what it is, something like this was bound to happen, even in paradise.
I'll still go to Aruba. Better than Newark NJ anytime. Or probably Bangkok.
Tim Miller said last night that the landfill is out by the airport. I think Greta asked him how close it was to the Marriott. He said not close. Someone with better memory than me might recall exactly what he said....lol
I asked Tim Miller's group to please check behind the two Hotels a couple weeks ago in a short email, not making any paranormal references, G_d knows.
Had sent a similar short email request to family contact at NataleeHolloway.net prior to that.
Have since called the FBI hotline, spoke to an agent in person with now very specific details about the goings on at the Allegro and the hiding location. He wanted to know where this came from and so I was busted. I'm like (long pause) uh, have you heard of that movie "White Noise"?
They won't look there now. He said he'd forward info to Miami, but you know how that goes : (
place mark
I think you're right. There has to be more to this than merely drugs. The sex trade is the only answer I can think of, unless it's pure-dee murder for sport.
Remember when a guy started a nudie paintball place? The girls were getting hurt and someone closed it down. Nothing surprises me anymore. Some people are subvile pigs.
Natalee Holloway Witness Stumbles: Leads Thin - Riehl World View
ArubaToday, an Aruban publication in english, online here
, claims that a witness discovered by Twitty family Private Investigator, T.J. Ward in the Natalee Holloway case may be of little real value.
Private Investigator T.J.Ward,who is working for the Twitty family,speaks to a journalist from People magazine about his investigation. Ward ’s recent finding of a witness sadly fizzled out after she couldn ’t identify the make or color of the car or even the date or time it passed by her home adjacent to the Racquet Club.
Reportedly, it appears her ability to place the car of Deepak Kalpoe at the location is in serious doubt.
The report from ArubaToday also disputes earlier claims found in Diario, another Aruban publication - that it seemed as though something had been found in the pond.
Crews expected to finish draining the pond on Friday,said Gabriel Kelly,a spokesman for the island ’s fire department,which was coordinating the effort.“So far we haven ’t found anything out of the ordinary,”Kelly said.
You are correct Jrabbit.
Pond pic Scroll to the second picture.
But, in the other map showing an overall of ARUBA you can see that the wetland is definately NORTH of the development and WAAAY larger than the pond.
Thanks....I hesitate to post from memory only. I think I paid attention to that because, early on, it was theoried that the landfill runoff went into the pond being drained. At the time, I was thinking how nasty that would be! yuck
"The reason the Shango posts piqued my interest (aka pricked up the 'ol ears LOL) was his insistance to "follow the music". I googled Aruba Palace, found the lyrics to an old song about Raving at the Aruba Palace, googled and found that this was the name of a casino at the Aruba Americana Hotel, found that Americana and it's Palace Casino existed right smack next door to the Wyndham (Old Hilton) and that Americana was an "OLD" Hotel as well since it is currently The Occidental Allegro. Back to square one and BINGO!"
Whoa!! I did not know this. I'm headed back to Shango..gonna read it all again. brb
Excellent! Thanks!
Bookmarked
Sorry, I haven't had time to follow this thread.. has anyone read the thread on Rhiel World, re: the news that will break?
Aruba Threat Causes Security Concerns: Impacts Holloway Investigation
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/aruba_threat_ca.html
If I drank, I'd need one right now. This is either breaking news, or I've been played. This post warrants a qualifier.
The vast majority of my reporting here has been based upon identified sources. I've adhered to that standard in every case, except one. Occasionally, one source has provided me quality information and always remained anonymous.
To date they haven't been wrong, sometimes putting me hours - and once or twice - a day or more ahead of large media. This source has not been responsible for the preponderance of reporting I have done on the Natalee Holloway disappearance. But their contribution has been significant for its content, just the same.
I was contacted today and told I would have a breaking development tonight not directly related to the resolution of this case and that it would break in Aruban media tomorrow. Given this qualifier, I've decided to go ahead and make the post. If I die on the vine, so be it. But at least I have given as full a disclosure as I possibly can.
Reports suggest that over a week ago a letter came into a government office in Aruba postmarked from the United States, it is alleged that the letter threatened the government of Aruba that "If they didn't give Natalee back," an as yet unidentified group behind the letter would take action against the island.
According to a source, those actions included contaminating water and meat imports flowing to the island from the United States. I did verify that the US is the largest importer of those and other products and goods onto the island. I am unclear as to what, if any other threats may have been made at that time.
According to this uncorroborated report, it was this which precipitated Prosecutor Karen Janssen being dispatched to Holland and Dutch investigators taking over on the ground in Aruba.
Additionally, a prosecutor was also dispatched to FBI headquarters in Washington to share information and to work with the FBI. I've been told that this matter was kept extremely secret within a tight circle around the Prime Minister; the Minister of Justice and the Head of the Intelligence Office.
End note: That said, I realize that politics in Aruba are somewhat volatile and there is an election coming soon. It could serve the best interests of some if any seeming change in the approach to the Natalee Hollway investigation were the result of something other than an unacceptable investigation, which focused negative attention on certain political figures right now.
As I am unaware of the political affiliations of my source, I felt it best to add this end note to the post.
[posted on last thread]
What news are you referring to Former.
SM (http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1851 ):
Elaine
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: Natalee+Landfill the connections
I really believe that we will all find out soon, that our girl, unfortunately is in the landfill. Why, Because on Monday night Jossy said that"They have a witness that can lead them to Natalees body". Later he said, the witness "SAW" what happened to the body, and where it was placed.
Today the landfill was searched, the witness was taken there to show the police where the body was"put". ES, does have a "point of interest" that they are looking at in that landfill.Today several rumors came out that, her body was found, then it was hushed.
I believe....IMHO...That she was found, in that landfill, but it will take a long time if she is there "to retrieve" her. One last thing id like to mention adding to msuspicions that shes there.....Last week we asked questions for the "live Tim Miller ES interview." I had a question on there, for Tom to ask Tim, if her body could be , in that landfill. They didnt have time to ask my question.
why did i want that question asked...BECAUSE, AS IVE STATED ON OTHER THREADS..MY IVESTIGATIVE SEARCHING...TOOK ME TO JORANS SCHOOL....THERE WERE MANY LINKS THERE... I CLICKED THEM ALL...WHEN I GOT TO THE ONE THAT SAID ENVIRONMENTAL CLASS TRIP AND CLICKED I DISCOVERED THAT THAT SCHOOL TAKES CLASS TRIPS TO THAT LANDFILL, AND LEARNS ABOUT WASTE DISPOSAL.
LOOKING AT THOSE PICTURES GAVE ME THE CREEPS, OMG!! JORANS BEEN ALL UP INSIDE THAT LANDFILL THEY HAD DEAD ANIAMLS THERE, SO JORANS THINKING COULD BE THAT THAT IS WHERE THE DEAD GO TO BE CRUSHED ETC...I COULDNT BELIEVE THAT IVE BEEN ALL OVER THE INTERNET READING ALL THE THEORYS ABOUT, NATALEE.....AND YET I DIDNT SEE ONE THING MENTIONED ABOUT THIS DAMNED TRIP....I BROUGHT MY INFORMATION TO THIS FORUM ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THE WITNESS EVER POINTED TO THE LANDFILL AND WE BRUSHED IT OFF...UNTIL MONDAY WHEN THEY SAID ABOUT THE WITNESS, BODY, LANDFILL...I THOUGHT AGAIN OMG.....
I BROUGHT THE INFORMATION INTO THE BOARD AGAIN ........I EMAILED BETH AND JUG TWITTY...I CALLED THE FBI, AND WAS ONLINE SENDING THEM WHAT I FOUND...
if Joran was inside that landfill it could make a difference, Can you believe when i told the FBI , I was sure they probablly knew about his possible connection=school trip. they did not. ...I AM WONDERING why i was"chosen " to find what I did. Maybe ill never know. But if I helped Natalees family in some small way..then it was meant to happen.....Thank you
[paragraphed for easier reading]
SM ( http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1847&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=320 ):
TTownMike
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:33 am
Compananzi wrote:
. . . Local Casino Dealer mysteriously skipped town to Holland...Interrogation also occurring in Holland in the Natalee case.
ORANJESTAD: Information has been circulating for a couple of days that a local Casino Dealer, male, who was working in the one of the Highrise Hotel Casino, right after the dissapearanc eof Natalee, skipped town and went to Holland.
After the Dealer went on his flight, rumors started that this young man also knows the 3 suspects, Joran van der Sloot and also know the bros. Deepak, and Satish Kalpoe.
This important detail, clearly has reached the ears of the local authorities, about the sudden trip of this Dealer, whose in Holland currently.
Sources indicate, and new information that Diario has made available points to the Dealer in question, whose trip went to Holland, was interrogated on more then 2 occasions by Aruban and Dutch authorities relating to the Natalee case.
It appears that the Dealer W confirmes that he knows Joran, but we could not determine if during the interrogation if he brought forward that he knows the bros. Kapoes or not.
Up to now in this 2 months long Natalee case, information are still circulating that this Dealer in question might know something about this case
To prevent rumors, Diario has confirmation from the local authorities, whose during the interrogation also were mentioning the high tailing of this dealer., which they were able to get Dutch counterparts to interrogate this youth with Initials W, whilst he was in Holland. All details of this interrogation will be sent back to Aruba.
Posted at #56, TexKat. :o)
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