Posted on 07/25/2005 7:26:05 PM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle
I thought this was a satire given how horribly argued it was.
That condescending attitude is what inhabits the minds of 99.999% of public school teachers in the United States.
They simply cannot fathom that anyone could do as good a job as they. They love the idea of a monopoly and aren't about to let go of that model for education in the U.S.
Lets see how good of a job our nations highly-trained professional educators are doing.
US History
Below Basic 57%
At or above Basic 43%
At or above Proficient 11%
Reading
Below Basic 26%
At or above Basic 74%
At or above Proficient 36%
Writing
Below Basic 26%
At or above Basic 74%
At or above Proficient 24%
Geography
Below Basic 29%
At or above Basic 71%
At or above Proficient 25%
Mathematics
Below Basic 36%
At or above Basic 64%
At or above Proficient 16%
average SAT scores for people in various professions. Heres are some verbal/math samples:
Farmer 491/484
Visual/Performing Artist 520/497
Military Science 503/505
Communications (marketing, PR, etc.) 527/497
Public School Teacher 487/477
Meanwhile, homeschooled students consistently score, on average, 35 points higher on the SAT than their public school counterparts (and usually at a younger age as well).
I just laughed at the whole "socialization" myth.
This children need socialization training is a pc crap made to pacify the guilt of career women who decided to raise their children by proxy.
I just had to laugh at this one. My kids go to public school, and I've liked their teachers. I have problems with our school district, but that's another topic.
Anyway, what makes me laugh is that an education degree is one of the easiest degrees in college.
I would think that just about anyone with a college degree would be educated enough to teach their kids.
I have a degree in engineering. I have had more science and math than my kids' teachers. My kids have learned more about math from me than from their teachers.
The only areas that I don't feel qualified are for my daughter with special needs. She gets speech therapy and sees a reading specialist. She also used to see an occupational therapist. They all have master's degrees, and lots of experience with special needs kids. They've done wonders for my daughter.
However, most kids don't need special help, and I think a well-educated parent could easily teach their children.
The professionals in the education industry have done an absolutely awful job and whine constantly about getting more money and more priveleges. Screw 'em.
most social studies teachers in the USA are called "coach" with no training at all.
Ping for Homeschool List!
Move along - no story here (unionized educational aristocracy criticizing a grass-roots built national movement to abandon the socialized and failing educational system).
Any questions???
Dear kcv1,
Do you have a source for those statistics?
Thanks,
sitetest
We'uns poor igrant wel meening souls done the bist we culd without the hep of youse smart folk. I gis mi little gril culda done better if'n me and her ma wulda let yall edicate her.
But sinse we waz willin to settle fer a cul colliege sharlship at 16 and bakpakin thru asia at 17, our litle gril will jus hafta git by the bist she can in life. Im sorry me and the litle woman didnt listin to you none.
Oh, and BTW Dave, since the average SAT score of education majors is a little over 900, and my poor, dumb HS kid scored 1325 when she was 15, I guess we'll just have to live with our failure as teachers. MORON (head custodian judging me???)
More of the sad life of a HS loser here:
http://shelley.dingeeadvertising.com
Dear Mr. Head Custodian,
Our home educated son (age 26) is a lawyer in California. He makes more in one month than you make in a year.
Best Regards,
Dopey Home School Parents
Guess he's pissed that my local school district isn't getting money for my little skulls full of mush since I keep them at home. LOL!!
What this person fails to realize is that one of the main goals of home education for me and at least several of my friends who are homeschoolers is NOT to TEACH my children EVERYTHING, but to teach them HOW TO LEARN anything they want to know. That's what a good teacher should be doing, regardless of the setting - home, public OR private school. There are good ones AND bad ones in each vein.
Thanks!!!
[They would be wise to help their children and themselves by leaving the responsibility of teaching math, science, art, writing, history, geography and other subjects to those who are knowledgeable, trained and motivated to do the best job possible.]
The idea that union teachers are "motivated to do the best job possible" is ludicrous. The teacher who starts their career full of ambition and talent and genuinely works hard to do the best job possible can see that other teachers who are mediocre, or even incompetent, are getting paid the exact same amount of money as they are, and no amount of caring or talent or hard work is going to earn them a dime more than a teacher who doesn't care, or is incompetent or lazy.
Ask yourself if you would continue to "do the best job possible" year after year under these conditions.
Only when public school teachers get paid according to their abilities and accomplishments (like in a real job) will we see better results from public schools.
Teaching is easy; learning and discipline are hard as Hell.
Interesting--he's clearly admitting that he believes teachers aren't just there to teach, their job is to "shape" children's minds and futures (leaving just their careers to the teachers would be bad enough). Further, if this article is indicative of "teachers'" quality of reasoning, it hardly makes a compelling case for sending kids to school.
Interestingly, I was home schooled by my parents, who were not only very well-educated (PhD, Cornell, and BS, Cornell) and well-prepared to teach me and my siblings, but also competent enough at some of the other tasks Mr. Arnold describes as "best left to the pros." When I was about 13, my brother and I, with the help of my dad, built an 8x15 foot, two room house (sort of as an extracurricular project), complete with a finished interior, electricity, telephone, and a high-speed internet connection.
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