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Man shot dead by police in London may have been Brazilian
BBC News ^ | 7/23/05

Posted on 07/23/2005 1:32:06 PM PDT by areafiftyone

A man shot dead by police in London was not connected to Thursday's attacks and may have been Brazilian. More Soon...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: darwinaward; dontactliketerrorist; donthavebrownskin; dontrunfrompolice; londonattacked
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To: Brad Cloven

Always submit to authorities.

Don't be brown. Don't wear a coat. Don't be an electrician. What else have we learned?

I just was reading where Condi and crew were upset at being jostled by some thug leader's security guards. Andrea Mitchel is livid.

These women obviously don't have to contend with the TSA. If they did, the attitude of the TSA would change or they would be outtahere.


281 posted on 07/23/2005 4:07:01 PM PDT by nsmart
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To: bernie_g

I'm not sure what the COBRA committee is, but I was assuming that since Mayor Bloomberg of New York City is in charge of the NYPD, I figured that Mayor Ken would have been involved in putting the shoot-to-kill policy in place.


282 posted on 07/23/2005 4:07:52 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Brad Cloven

well, at least we know why the british cops don't normally carry guns.


283 posted on 07/23/2005 4:08:56 PM PDT by notigar
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To: areafiftyone

So we agree then and hopefully you have resigned from DU and are giving up being a muslim ;)


285 posted on 07/23/2005 4:10:16 PM PDT by protest1
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To: nj26
It's more stupidity than it is racism, for hoping for the deaths of 1000 Brazilians or "Arab-look alikes".

It's one thing to profile people in the airport security line. It's another thing to kill them.

I agree, but if that person is threatening your life and the lives of hundreds or thousands of others, the first thing you want to do is take out the threat and at the same time save your life and the lives of hundreds or thousands of others. Anyone complying with the stripsearch at an airport security post is hardly a threat. In that regard, you're equating apples to oranges.

286 posted on 07/23/2005 4:11:07 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: pbrown

Yeah, well it can't "spin" the guy back to life.


287 posted on 07/23/2005 4:11:43 PM PDT by notigar
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To: mass55th
I've always said that if I was one of the cops chasing Rodney King that night, I'd have been hard pressed not to kick his ass too.

He's lucky all he ended up with was a a$$ full of the heel of a spit shined shoe.

288 posted on 07/23/2005 4:13:15 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: mass55th

COBRA stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room or something.

Basically it's the mechanism by which the Prime Minister interfaces with the security people during a major crisis.

It would normally decide to e.g. make the SAS available to the police, but the police would decide whether to hand control to the SAS. This incident sounds more like anti-terrorist cops though, and I'm not sure what the process is.

One thing I do know though, Tony Blair would rather perform dentistry on himself with a masonry bit than invite Ken Livingstone to a meeting, even one he theoretically has to be at.


289 posted on 07/23/2005 4:14:11 PM PDT by bernie_g
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To: seamole
I'm trying to explain what might have actually happened. He did not have a bomb on him when he entered the station.

What might happen is I could win the Mega lottery tonight and be set up for life.

What Did happen was he continued to run when ordered to stop. What Did happen is they thought he was a suicide bomber. What Did happen was England suffered a terrorist bombing twice in as two weeks.

290 posted on 07/23/2005 4:14:32 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: NativeNewYorker
"This is similar to the Diallo killing here in NYC, where an (illegal) African immigrant ran from cops, refused to stop, refused to id himself, and made a sudden gesture which triggred a volley of shots from the police,"

Diallo did not run from the cops, nor did he refused to ID himself. He simply walked into the foyer of his own building. When the cops showed up, he was opening his mailbox. He was reaching for a wallet when the cops shot him. One of the cops yelled, "gun", which was not true. At the sound of the word gun, the cops fired 44, or so shots. There was no reason whatsoever for them to have shot Diallo. None.

There's a difference in this case, because the Brazillian acted like a bomber during a period of real bombings.

291 posted on 07/23/2005 4:15:20 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Cboldt

Being a threat, he paid the ultimate sacrifice that saved hundreds of lives by losing his.


292 posted on 07/23/2005 4:15:42 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: notigar
Yeah, well it can't "spin" the guy back to life.

He'll never be a terrorist either will he?

293 posted on 07/23/2005 4:15:59 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: protest1
Alla Akbar(or something like that) (cough cough) ;-)

Yup I've quit them all. I'm back to my good old Italian American/Roman Catholic forgetaboudit world! ;-)

294 posted on 07/23/2005 4:16:29 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: mass55th

I believe witnesses said his foot slipped on the step and he grabbed the pole and another passenger by the arm trying to get into the car. I know that earlier reports said that he tripped but this slipping on the step is what witnesses are saying.


295 posted on 07/23/2005 4:16:50 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: nsmart
"What else have we learned?"

We have also learned not to exactly fit the profile of a suicide bomber while staying at a house under surveillance for suicide bombers. Not to flee from the police after you leave said premises when they try to arrest you. Not to ignore warnings to stop from armed police. Not to flee towards the suicide bombers primary target in eight previous bombings and attempted bombings.

296 posted on 07/23/2005 4:20:46 PM PDT by protest1
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To: madison10

"Do British police speak Portuguese?"
No, and perhaps it's a lesson to travelers & immigrants of how critical it could be to learn some of the language before going to another country....I wonder how a man could work as an electrician(how long had he been there?) in London and not understand "Stop, POLICE)

Not related to this, but years ago here in the USA a woman didn't understand a firemans pleas to her to jump from her burning window and she died....all the firemen & policemen were required to learn Spanish. I can't imagine how many languages theyd have to learn now.


297 posted on 07/23/2005 4:21:39 PM PDT by chgomac
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To: pbrown

No, he sure won't. He won't be much of anything except a corpse.


298 posted on 07/23/2005 4:22:52 PM PDT by notigar
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To: BigSkyFreeper
...yet he [Diallo] didn't run...

That would be news to me.

The "sudden gesture" was simply that he reached into his front pocket for his wallet

Yes, as I said. Pity he didn't stop and drop, as ordered, or raise his hands instead.

300 posted on 07/23/2005 4:24:27 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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