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Infant Girl Left In Hot Car Dies (the father forgot she was in the car?)
The Lakeland Ledger ^ | July 22, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 07/22/2005 3:08:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s

Infant Girl Left In Hot Car Dies

A baby was found dead inside a car Thursday after her father went to pick her up at her daycare and workers there told him she had never arrived, authorities said.

Gabriel Saavedra rushed out to his car at Storybook Nursery School and found his tiny daughter, Kayli, still strapped in her infant seat from that morning, police said.

Emergency workers said the girl, who would have been 5 months old on Saturday, was declared dead on the scene.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cars; death; kids; more2thestory; somethingisfishy; veryveryodd
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Death of baby left in car spurs safety invention.... Kids and cars
181 posted on 07/22/2005 5:09:07 PM PDT by bygrace85
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To: passionfruit

Those backward seats for the littlest ones is why you install a mirror over the back seat -- that way you can see their face when you look in your rear-view mirror.


182 posted on 07/22/2005 5:13:02 PM PDT by LenS
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To: hardworking

No kidding. My sister probably said something like:

"Uh, honey, it's me, your wife. How'z it going? Having a good morning? Uh, did you forget anything, um, you know, maybe, like, OUR DAUGHTER? By any chance was she sitting in her carseat in the driveway the last time you saw her? Maybe you oughtta start glancing in the rearview mirror as you drive off!"

LOL


183 posted on 07/22/2005 5:13:15 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: jacquej; All

any of you want to hear about the time my active 18 month old son got into one of the front hall chests in my mom's house when I was visiting, and ate a whole bunch of moth balls?

It was a Sunday, and the drugstore, with Ipecac, was closed. The hospital was a 35 minute drive away. Got the pharmacist to open up and get me the Ipecac, got a dose into him, he didn't "toss 'em up". Called back, emergency said to give him another dose, and start driving.

I did, he didn't upchuck, so I started driving.

Yep, he finally upchucked when I was in the hospital driveway.

Wan't to hear about the time he got into the medicine cabinet at my mother-in-law's? Nope?

OK, won't bore ya with that stomach-pumping.


184 posted on 07/22/2005 5:13:44 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: old and tired

But you have to balance these deaths against the deaths of kids in the front seat that no longer happen because they're in the back seat. Life is always a balancing of different problems.


185 posted on 07/22/2005 5:16:10 PM PDT by LenS
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To: hardworking

God help us if you are right.


186 posted on 07/22/2005 5:16:27 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Jrabbit

Well, if a baby is forgotten in the other seasons, it's much more likely to be fine (hungry and wet, but still alive). Even in winter, if a baby is bundled up, an unheated car still provides protection from the cold. But in summer heat, the car becomes the killer, instead of shelter.


187 posted on 07/22/2005 5:21:58 PM PDT by LenS
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I think from the sound of this awful story that the father had some weighty preoccupation on his mind as he drove to work and completely spaced out the fact that his infant daughter was asleep in the back seat. if it was a large suburban, he may not have been able to see her unless he was looking. Tragic does not cover it. Truly a life destroying event for both father and child.
188 posted on 07/22/2005 5:23:19 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: hardworking

I think you said dismembered and gave a quite colorful description of it. So I take it if God forbid this happened to your wife and baby, your wouldn't shoot or dismember her?

I have decided we are divided into two groups upon hearing this dreadful story;

My group,,,this could happen to me or my husband, God forbid, how could we prevent it. We imagine how it happened and knowing our own lapses can imagine it.

The other group,,this is impossible, couldn't happen to me, you would have to be dumb or evil. I don't believe his story. This is fishy. He shouldn't "breed" and so on. Some can't imagine how an ordinary human characteristic, distraction or whatever you call it, could result in this horrid story.

That is just it.


189 posted on 07/22/2005 5:24:49 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: jacquej

A sane remark on an otherwise insane thread. Thank you! And you are right about parenting being harder today. I think the young moms wear themselves out "stimulating" their babies and toddlers with incessant activities, classes, gym rompers, etc.

I say we all should stay home.


190 posted on 07/22/2005 5:29:08 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: ccmay

LOL! One of my children kept requesting a Chinese baby next time, because they're so cute!


191 posted on 07/22/2005 5:35:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: paulat

Spoken like a plaintiff's attorney - even down to the yelling.


192 posted on 07/22/2005 5:36:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: newsworthy

Okay, what does this family do?

Mom is a paralegal, works 60-70 hours a week, dad is starting up his own contracting company. They are dependant on mom's salary for steady income and her job for health care.

Two children come along; mom cuts back to 40 hours, nine to five, knows that means no promotions, limited pay raises. She calls it "princess hours".

They live in Dallas, own their own home (two bedrooms, the children share, even though dad's a contractor, can't afford to add on). Drive two 10 year old cars, but are in a close in neighborhood that shortens commutes.

Who should quit to stay home? Dad, and give up the business he's started and maybe lose the home b/c they cannot pay the mortgage? Or mom? And lose health care and a steady income?


193 posted on 07/22/2005 5:39:37 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: newsworthy
"What kind of man (or woman, for that matter) would put a five-month-old in daycare?"

BINGO! We have a winner.

194 posted on 07/22/2005 5:49:33 PM PDT by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: Tax-chick

Having so many boys, I've certainly had my share of pretty scary incidents. I hate that panicky feeling I get when I lose track of my boys even in the house...

I never thought silence could be so scary, but it really is...until this time of night, lol! At least I know they are sleeping and not getting into trouble. Though I still have to check on the (almost) six week old...I have to check his breathing, and I'll do that until he's about a year old.

What can I say, I'm paranoid! But thankfully, nothing really horrible has happened, though we came close when my now five year old hit his head on our slate hearth...he needed staples. I've never been so scared in my life! It didn't help that I was nine months pregnant with my year old son at the time. :(


195 posted on 07/22/2005 5:52:30 PM PDT by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

This is tragic, and it is the result of the insane laws that say an infant seat MUST be in the back seat of a car.

They can end this by putting infant seats back up front.

Early in the morning, routine, sleepy driver, traffic....and the guy just starts following the pattern of driving to work.


196 posted on 07/22/2005 5:54:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: pa mom
"I don't know anyone who has ever forgotten they had a kid in the car. I just don't get this. How do you forget your child? Even in the back seat?"

I have multiple children. Trust me. Keeping track of all of them at all times is virtually impossible. They wander off when you are by necessity concentrating on other important matters. When I was a toddler and crawled behind my parent's china cabinet and feel asleep, my parents didn't notice until three hours later when they immediately called the police. I still hear about that little incident at family gatherings. Not attempting to exonerate this man, I can at least understand how it could happen. My wife and I made the decision long ago that I would work while she took care of the children even if it meant that we would hurt financially. There have been many a morning that I have gone to work without seeing any of the scenery along the way worrying about how we would make ends meet. One time I remember taking all four kids to the store to grocery shop. When we got home, our four year old had fallen asleep in his car seat. In the rush to get the groceries out of the hot car, we left our youngest in his car seat and didn't realize it for almost an hour. Sammy was fine but it gave us a real scare. Some of the stories that you read about this sort of horrible event have no excuse. Some are just too tragic to contemplate accidents. From the sound of it, I suspect the latter.

197 posted on 07/22/2005 5:56:10 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13

I certainly agree it was an accident. Maybe mine always made so much noise I couldn't forget them!


198 posted on 07/22/2005 5:59:20 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: ChildOfThe60s

All I can come up with is that these people MUST be on drugs.


199 posted on 07/22/2005 5:59:55 PM PDT by Veloxherc (To go up pull back, to go down pull back all the way.)
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To: semaj

No winner. A question that begs for an answer. All kinds of people put their kids in daycare. All kinds of people stay at home.

The worst mother of our time, that Texas woman who murdered her children, was a stay at home Mom.

Many decent people, many Freepers I daresay, have their kids in daycare.


200 posted on 07/22/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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