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The Rove Problem
Time ^ | 7/21/05 | Nancy Gibbs

Posted on 07/21/2005 8:24:53 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Did Bush's top aide commit a crime talking to reporters about a spy? Here's what the case is really about--and why it grows more fascinating

Valerie Plame had no reason to welcome a reporter into her home last week. Reporters tell stories and trade secrets, and her life, once a state secret, had become one of the most widely told stories in years. As if anyone could resist it: beautiful blond mother of two whose identity as a CIA spy is compromised by a political vendetta against her husband.

She opens the door of her brick house on the leafy Washington side street, a few turns from the German embassy. A Jaguar convertible sits in the driveway, the toys and bikes in the garage. There are...

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The Rove problem is the undoing of the MSM. Why is Mrs Miller still sitting in prison ? Will she have to spill the beans on some RAT ?


41 posted on 07/21/2005 2:36:54 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RATS have struck out but they continue to run the bases)
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To: YaYa123

bttt


42 posted on 07/21/2005 2:40:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: SF Republican

Other itesm have come to mind but this is a family page...


43 posted on 07/21/2005 2:43:31 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: stinkerpot65
Was checking out DU last night and their key word was "strategy" in trying to multi-task bringing down Rove, DeLay, and now Roberts.They were fussing about which one was the most important to bring down. It was honestly pathetic. And the worst part is they don't realize what useless sophomoric idiots they are. They think they matter.

And yes, I took the prerequisite shower. Had been working in the yard anyway. :o)

44 posted on 07/21/2005 2:52:45 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: EagleUSA

Here we are in the midst of a second round of terrorist bombings in London, and the MSM still find five minutes to hammer away at Rove. One idiot Brit reporterette found a picture of Rove with Bush at a party, and Rove wore a red button that said I'm a source not a leak or something to that effect. She was beside herself with glee. So what you said is absolutely correct.


45 posted on 07/21/2005 3:00:45 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Zee2
Yeah if evidence shows they commited a crime that would normally be prosecuted of course, then of course it should be prosecuted.

Well even if it's a prosecution against Rove for outting a covert agent, I'd support it. That statute is not normally used in prosecution, you know. Are you saying that the prosecutor should lay off Rove?

Without qualification, I support the prosecutor. Your qualification means you would withhold support of the prosecutor if an indictment doesn't meet your predetermined outcome.

46 posted on 07/21/2005 3:20:24 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

Excuse me???????
First of all we dont know what statute they are looking into...
Second of all, all my qualification meant was that the prosecuter should use normal prosecutorial judgement. If i didnt know better I would so you are trying to put words in my mouth.


47 posted on 07/21/2005 3:29:24 PM PDT by Zee2
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To: Zee2
By the way, you do know it was the CIA that asked the justice department to start the investigation. (Not the media, i dont know if u were suggesting it was the media)

I believe this is inaccurate. I believe the David Corn was the first to ask, "[W]here's the investigation?" on July 16, 2003. Do you have evidence that the CIA asked for an investigation before the media asked for it?

48 posted on 07/21/2005 3:31:24 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Valerie Plame had no reason to welcome a reporter into her home last week.

Oh really? No reason or motive at all? Well thanks so much for clearing that up with with your objective journalistic opinion!

49 posted on 07/21/2005 3:32:16 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Zee2

Can you say, without qualification, that you support the prosecutor?


50 posted on 07/21/2005 3:32:35 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

I am absolutely sure the CIA asked the justice department.
the request was filed by the CIA on July 30, 2003.
Just do a google search. David Corns article is not a formal request for an investigation. In fact not only did the CIA make a formal request for the investigation. They even said
that if Valeria Plame was not a covert agent there would have been no need for such a request from the justice department.


51 posted on 07/21/2005 3:52:53 PM PDT by Zee2
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To: SolidSupplySide

Excuse me???????
First of all we dont know what statute they are looking into...
Second of all, all my qualification meant was that the prosecuter should use normal prosecutorial judgement. If i didnt know better I would so you are trying to put words in my mouth.


52 posted on 07/21/2005 3:53:51 PM PDT by Zee2
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To: SolidSupplySide

Why would I give complete unqualified support to a prosecutor I know very little about?


53 posted on 07/21/2005 3:55:38 PM PDT by Zee2
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To: montag813

We now know Wilson is a partisan political opportunist trying to make political hay. He likes seeing his face on T.V. Wilson worked for and donated to the Kerry campaign.
He wanted to discredit the President. The Talking Heads in the Big Media have had the same objective for a long long time. The whacky Democrats are having fun using Wilson and the Media to keep this stupid story going. The Media is having fun using the whacky Democrats so the story has more legs!


54 posted on 07/21/2005 4:05:37 PM PDT by Revererdrv
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To: Zee2

You lost the election, get over it.


55 posted on 07/21/2005 4:16:46 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Zee2
Why would I give complete unqualified support to a prosecutor I know very little about?

I think this says a lot about your position. You have a desired outcome, and it appears politically motivated. If that doesn't come to pass, you will turn on Fitzgerald quickly.

On the other hand, my desired outcome is justice. I only want those who have violated law to be held accountable. I am comfortable saying that because it is true.

I can only speculate as to your motivations.

56 posted on 07/21/2005 4:43:04 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: Zee2
I am absolutely sure the CIA asked the justice department. the request was filed by the CIA on July 30, 2003. Just do a google search. David Corns article is not a formal request for an investigation. In fact not only did the CIA make a formal request for the investigation. They even said that if Valeria Plame was not a covert agent there would have been no need for such a request from the justice department.

I think you concede that the press called for an investigation before the CIA. This is in contradiction to what you wrote previously.

But I see a game of "heads I win, tails you lose" when you move the goalposts. If there was no criminal investigation, the left would have insisted that the administration was covering criminal activity up in the White House (See Corn). If there is an investigation, that is dipositive evidence of criminal activity in the White House. So no matter what happens, the left makes the same accusation. That is beyond intellectually lazy and approaching intellectually bankrupt.

57 posted on 07/21/2005 4:48:11 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

yea it actually says nothing about my position.

All it says is dont give unqualified trust to strangers.
Thats it, nothing more, nothing less.
Yeah Justice is good, but i dont believe that everytime a lows is violated that it should nessecarily be prosecuted, for example I dont think rush limbaugh should be prosecuted for his little drug problem.


58 posted on 07/21/2005 5:26:53 PM PDT by Zee2
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To: Zee2

On last thing about the Plame/Wilson kerfuffle. If it ends up destroying the credibility of the CIA, the innuendo surrounding Rove will certainly be worth it. The CIA is fatally flawed, incompetant, too powerful and corrupt. I hope Porter Goss cleans house and puts in people who actually care about American interests.


59 posted on 07/21/2005 5:28:04 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

The CIA actually has the ability to make formal requests for an investigation. When u say the press called for an investigation you just mean someone wrote an editorial. Thats not really the same thing as going to the justice department and making a formal request for an investigation.


60 posted on 07/21/2005 5:28:59 PM PDT by Zee2
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