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To: r9etb

***Mine:I am all for the AMericanization of Muslims, you are not, or you are severely disallusioned in thinking that accomodating purdah will lead to its end.

****Yours:

Uh huh. Perhaps you ought to consider the "how" of your expressed desire. Are you going to impose some sort of religious test on people who rent out the pool? Sheesh.

I believe that every city coucil and public use area should refuse the civic accomodation of any purdah or sharia conduct unless approved by a committee or board of selectmen, the same way people have to apply for a parade permit.

Thats your real "Sheesh"kabob. Not the "sheesh" you mistakenly prefer. Its the way our democracy works.

Accomodating purdah sends out entirely the wrong message and prevents the Americanization of Muslim immigrants. It only soldifies and separates the subculture and "peaceful Muslims " continue to be easily converted to "terrorist Muslims" through that continued subculture.


497 posted on 07/22/2005 6:30:37 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7
I believe that every city coucil and public use area should refuse the civic accomodation of any purdah or sharia conduct unless approved by a committee or board of selectmen, the same way people have to apply for a parade permit.

And what of the First Amendment? If you go back and read your history, you'll find that the British did very much the same thing to people like the Puritans and Quakers. This is precisely the sort of thing that the Founders had in mind when they wrote the Establishment clause.

Are you saying that the Constitution shouldn't apply to these women as well?

We can certainly agree on the bad points of the clothing and other restrictions placed on these women. But it is not illegal, nor should it be.

The best way to solve the problem is not through force (which rarely, if ever works), but instead by holding out an alternative to their current status. Give them a choice between their current status, and a better, freer one. It takes longer, but the lesson is retained much better.

498 posted on 07/22/2005 6:43:18 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Candor7

"Accomodating purdah sends out entirely the wrong message and prevents the Americanization of Muslim immigrants."

It basically prevents the assimiliation for them into ANY "civilized" COUNTRY ON EARTH OTHER THAN THE MIDDLE EAST where female oppression reigns supreme. They will never try or even care to meet other cultures, nations half way. So frankly why should other cultures bend over backwards for their cult of mysogyny.


499 posted on 07/22/2005 6:51:57 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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