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Posted on 07/19/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by TexKat
Just read through the posts based on the time of day and you'll find everything you need. Or just search TexKat by poster on the front page of our forum and you'll find them there.
By The Associated Press
(7/21/05 - ORANJESTAD, Aruba) — Volunteers with a search group from Texas plan to return to Aruba with high-tech equipment as they help look for a missing Alabama teen.
Authorities this week took DNA samples from a jailed Dutch youth and two of his friends as officials concentrate on physical evidence in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
The 18-year-old has been missing since late May during a high school graduation trip.
Also, DNA tests will be done on blond hair attached to duct tape that was found along Aruba's northeastern coast.
Members of Dickinson-based Texas Equusearch pulled out of the island over the weekend after their efforts turned up no sign of Holloway.
Now organizers say they'll dispatch three people to the Caribbean island on July 28th with ground-penetrating radar.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba, July 21, 2005
Authorities told defense attorneys the DNA would be compared to material found by investigators but did not disclose what would be used in the comparison.
(CBS/AP) Police in Aruba are now testing DNA from three young men who were with Natalee Holloway the night she disappeared. She's been missing nearly two months.
The samples were taken Tuesday, a day after investigators said they would conduct DNA tests on blond hair attached to duct tape that was found along Aruba's northeastern coast, in a possible break to the six-week-old disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
Beth Holloway Twitty, Natalee Holloway's mother, told The Early Show she is hoping for the best.
"I'm so grateful to the individual, the park ranger that made that discovery," she said, "How observant of him, because, you know, I think it could be a critical piece of evidence."
Dutch youth, Joran van der Sloot, 17, was taken to a hospital and submitted a saliva sample for the genetic testing sought by prosecutors, his attorney Richie Kock said.
Two Surinamese brothers, Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Deepak Kalpoe, 21, who were detained earlier in the case but released, also submitted saliva samples the same day, said Ruud Offringa, an attorney for the older brother.
Authorities told defense attorneys the DNA would be compared to material found by investigators, but did not disclose what would be used in the comparison, Offringa and Kock said.
Van der Sloot and the brothers were the last people known to have seen Holloway before she vanished May 30. They have not been charged and all three maintain their innocence.
They were arrested June 9, but a judge ordered the Kalpoe brothers released July 4 for lack of evidence. The judge ordered van der Sloot to remain in custody until Sept. 4, when prosecutors must present arguments again if they want to prolong the detention.
The saliva specimens will be sent to the Netherlands, and it could take a week or two for the findings to be disclosed, Offringa said. The test to determine if the hair came from Holloway also will take place in the Netherlands.
Aruba, a Dutch protectorate, doesn't have a lab to conduct the genetic testing.
A spokesman for the Aruban government, Ruben Trapenberg, declined to comment Wednesday on the investigation, and the prosecutor could not be reached.
The FBI, which has been advising in the investigation, has said it would conduct separate genetic testing on the hair.
A park ranger found the duct tape while collecting trash Sunday on the opposite side of the island from where the 18-year-old honors student was last seen in public.
Holloway disappeared on the last day of a vacation with 124 classmates to celebrate their high school graduation. Extensive searches by Dutch marines, Aruban police, and some 2,000 volunteers have found no trace of her.
A volunteer search organization from Dickinson, Texas, that pulled its team from the island on Sunday said it planned to dispatch three people to the Caribbean island on July 28 with ground-penetrating radar.
And let's not forget that he was a witness for the defense for the murderer who killed his wife by throwing her down the stairs and had already killed another girl in Germany years ago, killed the same way He got away with it until this trial brought out skeletons. This was in Durham, NC a year or so ago.
Natalee Holloway, left, poses with friends Lee Broughton, Madison Whatley, and Ruth McVay, left to right, in a photograph taken with Natalee's disposable camera on the beach in Aruba, May 29, 2005, hours before she disappeared. (Photo: AP/Beth Twitty)
Did you notice how tightly Shasta had her arms folded against her chest in the convenience store video?
Thanks for the ping, TexKat.
I have a lot of cathing up to do later this afternoon.
Again, thanks. Much appreciated.
I was going through the bedtime stuff with my daughter and missed a lot of it. I thought though on Greta they were going to show one of Natalee's aunts talking with the chief of Police on the beach, but to the best of my knowledge nothing was shown of that. Did anyone else notice that?
Latest developments in Aruba (Thursday 21-July) AweMeinta is reporting that the Holloway family will announce today that they will offer $200.000 for the safe return of Natalee Holloway or $100.000 for the ‘golden tip’ that leads to her. At the beginning of June the reward was $50.000. The Holloway family kept increasing the reward and currently it stands at $150.000.
I wonder why they haven't called in the Vidocq Society? I'm reading a true-crime book called Trail of Blood by Jim Dunn. He was in basically the same situation as Natalee's parents, but it was a U.S. situation:
No body
Suspects (more than 1)
The only difference is that there WAS lots of blood.
He called in the Vidocq Society, and they used their forensic and psychological profiling skills to prosecute the murderers. They basically proved that the guy's girlfriend was a psychopath.
I wonder if Natalee's parents have contacted the Vidocq Society?
Probably under the orders of the perp...or trying to calm herself.
Interesting. Never heard of them before.
I haven't really followed this thread that closely, but I wish there was a way of putting Natalee's family in touch with either Jim Dunn or the Vidocq Society.
FYI from their website (criteria for taking on a case):
As a member of the International Vidocq Society you must be willing to work a “pro-bono” case in an effort to solve. Cases are accepted and evaluated through the IVS based on several eligibility factors. The clients who submit these special cases are either not financially able to afford the services of a traditional private investigator or because of the high profile of their matter. Cases accepted on the pro-bono level will generally be looking into the injustices of a criminal case or assisting in locating a missing/endangered child. Members must agree to work one pro-bono case annually when applicable and agreed upon mutually a set number of hours.
To request an application to the International Vidocq Society please return to the home page and go to the contact us portion and submit your request via E-mail. Once we receive your name/address we will send you out additional information as well as an application for membership.
You may also make a written request for an application:
International Vidocq Society
Bank of Commerce Building
704 Main Street Ste. 306
Oregon City, Oregon 97045
I did see that in the tease before the program....Linda was on, and had plenty to say, and Greta stopped her at (I presume) the end of the allotted time.....hopefully she will show the footage that the tease was made from tonite....it was Linda and van der Straaten
Well, I do know that one of the posters here is a friend of Natalee's aunt.
Hopefully she can pass the information along.
>>>Not necessarily. It can be a comfort thing--self-hugging--response to anxiety. Folded arms can also indicate restraint--i.e., keeping things 'close to the vest'.<<<
Somehow, Arlene doesn't look to me to be the type who has to do "self-hugging".
Maybe it was cold in Aruba last night? ;)
That is the drinking age in the Netherlands. 16 for beer and wine. 18 for spirits.
Fritzy guess what? My husband's law office is mainly in Kelowna but we have a Peachland branch office. Peachland is really growing. We actually lived there one year but I hated the drive home from Kelowna at night in the winter because I work in the Kelowna main office every day. But I agree, Peachland is absolutely beautiful!!
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