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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 8
Various News Outlets | 7/19/05

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; equusearch; joran; kalpoes; natalee; nataleeholloway; vandersloots
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To: WestCoastGal

Bones are still sitting there, too.


61 posted on 07/19/2005 11:28:02 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: dc-zoo

Okay. Didn't see H&C(G) last night.(My family is trying to ween me off of this case ala no FOX until Greta each night)


62 posted on 07/19/2005 11:29:42 AM PDT by truthluva ("Courage is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: monkeywrench

Okay. I was afraid you were going to make go off in there today. lol


63 posted on 07/19/2005 11:30:26 AM PDT by truthluva ("Courage is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: hershey

Sorry, I meant to say if their fingerprints are not on the tape, it is a plant


64 posted on 07/19/2005 11:30:34 AM PDT by Li-Li (Induct Roger Maris into the Baseball Hall Of Fame)
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To: spectre

what are you thinking,spectre?........


65 posted on 07/19/2005 11:31:12 AM PDT by cherry
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To: truthluva
I have been thinking about this duct tape with the hair evidence and it seems a bit suspicious to me. It has been reported that this evidence was found based on a tip. And it was found on the opposite side of the island from where Joran and Natalee were supposed to be. This is the second ‘tip’ that has been received about something suspicious on that side of the island. The first was a possible ‘temporary gravesite’ not far from where the duct tape was found. Hmmm…two tips close together diverting attention to the opposite side of the island.

Although Fox News and perhaps others reported this as a tip, the duct tape w/strands of hair attached was not found due to a tip. The park ranger supposedly was doing his normal clean up of the area and ran across the dry, fresh duct tape w/strands of hair attached.

Then there is the bone that was found on 07/06/05 that has never (as far as anyone knows) been inspected to determine if it’s human or other animal. A bone found within ½ mile of the place where Joran and Natalee were supposed to be. Hmmm...you have a bone in the vicinity of the location of interest and nearly two weeks later no identification? This is problematic in my opinion.

You can add another unidentified bone to the mix.

Jennifer Fornaro found bone on Aruban shore found a bone that was between 2 rocks. Ms. Fornaro turned the bone into the Nord police. Ms. Fornaro said the bone was gray, looked like a joint bone, perhaps 5 to 6 inches long with white tissue still on it. There was also a 2nd bone that someone else had taken to the Nord police. Jennifer Fornaro showed Equusearch members where she had found the bone.

ALE still has not gotten back with Ms. Fornaro.

66 posted on 07/19/2005 11:31:40 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: penowa

Sorry! It was H&C like others are reporting. All this stuff is running together after something like 6 wks.


67 posted on 07/19/2005 11:32:14 AM PDT by penowa
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To: the Deejay
I think what you saw was Beth saying the hairbrush was returned to her at around the same time the duct-tape and hairs showed up. I got the impression she had given it to (what passes for) LE in case DNA was needed.
68 posted on 07/19/2005 11:33:55 AM PDT by blu (This post edited for brevity.)
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To: penowa
All this stuff is running together after something like 6 wks.

Exactly.

69 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:09 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Krodg
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Greta just said Natalees brush returned to Beth same time as this hair found. LE had the brush for some time. Trying to set Beth up?

Quick, somebody better tell Nancy Grace before she makes a bigger foaming mouth pit bull out of herself.

70 posted on 07/19/2005 11:35:21 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

TexKat,

There seems to be a great deal of confusion as to how the duct tape was discovered. I have heard more than once it came from a 'tip' from someone who was walking in that area and found it. Who knows the truth about how it was found??? Misinfomation??? Hmmm.

Was the 'other' bone the one they claimed was a donkey bone? That's what I was thinking when she said that last night. She didn't say it, that's just what I was thinking.


71 posted on 07/19/2005 11:36:56 AM PDT by truthluva ("Courage is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Li-Li

Greta/or one of the reporters on her show or Nancy Grace's last night mentioned the possibility that the anonymous tip to Aruban LE came from people sick of the way things were going. If the duct tape has Van der sloot's fingerprints on it, papa or son, then it's evidence of a crime and enough for a charge. Do you think they've decided to sacrifice Joran, et al, for the tourist trade? Sad if that's so. I'd prefer that Natalee had a hand in this from wherever she is. If the Kalpoe bros. prints are on the duct tape, Joran could say he didn't do it and get off? Their justice system is so screwy, it's hard to predict...I think you can be tried twice, too. Double jeopardy no problem.


72 posted on 07/19/2005 11:37:42 AM PDT by hershey
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To: TexKat

Surely these people would not be so foolish as to try and accuse Beth of constucting false evidence!?! What possible good would it do her? She wants the truth not vigilante justice. I hope that's not what they are trying to do here!!!


73 posted on 07/19/2005 11:41:20 AM PDT by truthluva ("Courage is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: hershey

Bump.


74 posted on 07/19/2005 11:42:35 AM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: WestCoastGal
TK, did the FBI take a sample of the hair before the ALEO supposedly sent it to Holland?

Lets hope and pray that they did. But if the evidence was planted, sheesh!!I see reports that they didn't send it yet. I swear, if I were Beth I would be in their face about this. Actually I wouldn't trust them with any evidence at this point.

I wonder if the Holloway's could hire someone to do the forensic tests on future things found? What happened with the two bones that were found and turned in?

WCG I don't know if the Twittys can afford someone to do the forensic tests, according to Jug last night on Greta, they just hired a PI this past weekend. Perhaps some good samaritan could volunteer.

75 posted on 07/19/2005 11:45:08 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: monkeywrench

FGS, there needs to be a demonstration for the Holloway's outside the police station!! And, with no apologies either!

This is just totally ridiculous.


76 posted on 07/19/2005 11:46:30 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jack erased my tagline, need a new one!! :))
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To: truthluva
Surely these people would not be so foolish as to try and accuse Beth of constucting false evidence!?!

I don't know if I read the hair brush, etc. correctly. But I think that they were referring to ALE planting evidence, not Beth.

I will have to go back and reread.

77 posted on 07/19/2005 11:48:06 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: WestCoastGal

It's a wonder that Beth Twitty hasn't had a nervous breakdown. The VDS's and Kalpoe's are pure evil.


78 posted on 07/19/2005 11:50:57 AM PDT by hershey
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To: the Deejay
"Waiting to be looked over by Aruba's forensics expert...... who happens to be on vacation!!!!! "




Vacation???

Yikes, it should be canceled until this is finished.

I also heard last night that the top cop is retiring and the new one taking his place needs open heart surgery!!!!

79 posted on 07/19/2005 11:52:28 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jack erased my tagline, need a new one!! :))
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To: Yaelle
I watched Greta tonight. I was touched when Jug choked up a bit thanking Greta for all she has personally done. She fluffed it right off, saying that all the media did the same, bla bla bla, but that is NOT true. Greta may have singlehandedly gotten that scrutiny on Paulus back when. She has been an amazing trouper through this case, and indeed Natalee could have been forgotten w/o Greta's constant attention.

Greta is doing an excellent job on this case. I'm so glad she got out of the studio and started going after the stories where they occur. It spices up her program a great deal.

She is so modest, always brushing off praise. And her blog is interesting reading. Where else could you find photos of the very tacky International School of Aruba, which would not pass a property codes inspection anywhere in the United States? An exclusive school? Baloney! No wonder Goon Joran got good grades there--if their grading standards are anything like their standards for safety and cleanliness.

Ayway, Greta, if you read here, you are doing a fantastic job. Keep up the good work!

80 posted on 07/19/2005 11:55:03 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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