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1 posted on 07/17/2005 6:09:54 PM PDT by rface
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"So it would be awfully presumptuous of us to take steps against a guy in his career based on second, third, fourth-hand reporting."

Too bad this standard doesn't apply to Rove eh.


2 posted on 07/17/2005 6:11:31 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Lynn Elber has been an entertaiment writer with the Associated Press since 1992. Although she grew up around the corner from MGM and other movie studios in Culver City, California, Elber's early journalism years were spent covering fires, floods and politics. That training helped to prepare her for the tough job of doing the Hollywood shuffle.

3 posted on 07/17/2005 6:13:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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"I think we're all aware that no one really knows what's going on in the investigation of the Valerie Plame incident," said Jonathan Klein, president of CNN/U.S. "

It is an absolute certainty that noone at CNN knows what's going on..in this or any other matter.

Probably one of the only accurate statements CNN has ever made.

6 posted on 07/17/2005 6:22:41 PM PDT by Tula Git
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Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)


8 posted on 07/17/2005 6:24:54 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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Miller's protecting another reporter, probably Kristof, who actually interviewed Wilson a couple months before Novak's article. Wilson was probably getting frustrated with no one listening to him so he just casually mentioned his wife, Plame, to Kristof in order to lend credence to his story.


11 posted on 07/17/2005 6:28:05 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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Klein praised Novak as "one of the most outstanding political reporters this country has ever known."

I think he is well past his prime.

Witness his certain announcement of Renquist's imminent retirement, just over a week ago.

How often is he right, these days? Can he be relied on or trusted, on this Rove/Wilson episode?

Or anything?

12 posted on 07/17/2005 6:28:45 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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CNN Stands by Robert Novak During Probe Into Leak of CIA Officer's Identity

Uh...is anyone else shocked?(s)

CNN did a segment on the nations political scandals.
Odd.... they never even mentioned Clinton, the countries disgraced and impeached president. Funny they'd miss that one (NOT - he's their Allah, and Bush is the target of their jihad)

14 posted on 07/17/2005 6:30:07 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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Not to mention that Novak owns "Capitol Gang" which is probably one of the few shows anybody watches on CNN. (Not me.)


22 posted on 07/17/2005 6:49:17 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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The real solution to all this mess is to quit talking to reporters! When will we learn that they are NOT our friends.
39 posted on 07/17/2005 7:41:43 PM PDT by timestax
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Question: Which of these two bullying, lying men was married to


Answer: Both men.

41 posted on 07/17/2005 8:12:41 PM PDT by syriacus (To WHICH entity does LIBELLER JOE WILSON pledge his allegiance?)
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CNNLIES
44 posted on 07/18/2005 4:47:28 PM PDT by timestax
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