FBI bulletin outlines possible terrorist plot at Texas border

Dallas Morning News via Kansas City Star ^ | Posted on Sat, Jul. 16, 2005 | ALFREDO CORCHADO AND JASON TRAHAN

[dagnabbit]

LOL!

I try not to post to, or reply to the well-known Mexico-merger disrupter trolls at FR. While their antics are sometimes amusing, they're more often just plain sad.

[truth_seeker]

"Not that it matters to Frist, since he won't win the GOP primary in '08, but this type of nonsense is giving the Hildabeast an issue to triangulate on to create a winning majority in the presidential election. If the Dims become the pro-immigration reform party, even if cosmetic, it will hurt the GOP do-nothings."

Consider: If Hillary takes the position that Republicans SHOULD BE taking, then Republicans will be forced to be either further right, or left of her.

Whatever one thinks of her, Republicans have left an open path for a democrat candidate to take a more reasonable policy position of immigration, from national security standpoint.

I'm sure Bush sits back, relying on the fact his own policy got him elected twice, and he doesn't have to run again.

Policy positions for Republican presidential candidates are their own business. Tancredo first out of the blocks.

Perot forced a balanced budget to be important in 1992.

Perhaps Tancredo will force immigration to be important in 2008.

[umgud]

Sealing the border by itself will not solve our illegal immigration problem. We need interior enforcement and to turn off the magnet. But, let me also say that even if we magically had no illegal immigrant problem, the threat of terror demands we put military patrols on the border. If some here think that is impossible, trust me, if we have a cross-border terror event, you'll see all kinds of troups on the border. The question is whether we put them there ist or after an event.

[archy]

It actually goes beyond this for me though. This is 'our' nation. It is not El Presidente Fox's. None the less, El Presidente Fox sets our border policies by default.

Of course, that cuts both ways. Once enough Mexican refugees come to this country, we become the legitimate government of Mexico by default.

I'm sick of this President Bush. Are you a mouse or a man when it comes to the sactitiy of OUR borders and OUR nation?

Did you or did you not have your fingers crossed when you swore to uphold Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States?

I don't know about Bush's adherence to his oath, either as president or from when he was a USAF officer. But I know about mine. And a few others:

24.9 million

The number of military veterans in the United States.
(From the upcoming Statistical Abstract of the United States: 2004-2005.)

1.7 million

The number of veterans who are women.
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The number of veterans who are age 65 or over.
(From the upcoming Statistical Abstract of the United States: 2004-2005.)

2.4 million

The number of black veterans. Additionally, 1.1 million veterans are Hispanic; 272,000 are Asian; 159,000 are American Indian or Alaska native; and 30,000 are native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander. (The numbers for blacks, Asians, American Indians and Alaska natives and native Hawaiians and other Pacific islanders cover only those reporting a single race.)

8.2 million

Number of Vietnam-era veterans. Vietnam veterans account for more than 3-in-10 veterans, the largest share of any period of service. The next largest share of wartime veterans, 4.4 million or nearly 2-in-10, served during World War II.
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16%

Percentage of Persian Gulf War veterans who are women. In contrast, women account for 5 percent of World War II vets, 3 percent of Vietnam vets and 2 percent of Korean War vets.
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381,000

Number of veterans who served during both the Vietnam era and the Desert Storm era (August 1990 or later).

[Graymatter]

>>Claimed the Minutemen were the worst kind of vigilantes.........he said they were actually "hunting, with intent to kill" the illegals.

If you look at their policies here http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/sop.php

it would seem the Minutemen are indeed the worst kind of vigilantes: "You have agreed to abide by a no contact, no engagement policy...You will not be coming to Arizona to challenge anyone, any idea, any person -- your challenge is with yourself. Your challenge will be, simplistically put, to behave yourself."

Sounds more like a yoga retreat to me! What sort of vigilante challenges no one and contacts no one?

[archy]

...the threat of terror demands we put military patrols on the border. If some here think that is impossible, trust me, if we have a cross-border terror event, you'll see all kinds of troups on the border. ... .

I did five duty tours along the 5-km zone in West Germany along the East German [870 miles] and Czechoslovolkian border in 1967, prior to my later tour of Southeast Asia spas and resort areas. Some of them were quite interesting, even sporty.

And yes, there were occasional successful crossers, whom we generally did not try to kill, though they had been told we would. But those numbers were very managable compared to what's going on along that 2000-mile border with Mexico.

[datura]

Thanks for the memories, dude. The Wall down in the Zone was the same as it was in Berlin.

2nd Bn 6th US INF

[nevergore]

Oh No! Not El Espanol!!!

NeverGore :^)

[Cindy]

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[Cindy]

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[Cindy]

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[Cindy]

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WorldNetDaily.com: Washington - "MEXICAN DRUG COMMANDOS EXPAND OPS IN 6 US STATES" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The ultra-violent, U.S.-trained elite, Mexican paramilitary commandos known as the "Zetas," responsible for hundreds of murders along the border this year, have expanded their enforcement efforts on behalf of a drug cartel by setting up trafficking routes in six U.S. states. A U.S. Justice Department memo says the U.S.-trained units have recently moved operations into Houston, San Antonio and the states of California, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. They have been operating in Dallas for at least two years, according to the feds.") (June 21, 2005) (Read More...)

[upchuck]

Now there is growing concern they could become deadly conduits for terrorism.

Surprise, surprise! They already are.

IMHO, the terrorists are already here. Their WMDs (whether nuclear, biological, etc.) are here. Their plans are already here. Now, they are just waiting for the perfect time.

And when they decide the time is right, the carnage is going to be unimaginable.

And when we learn they came across the southern border, President Bush will be finished since everyone knows he's turned his back on this problem.

And a RAT, most likely The Hildabeaste, will easily take the White House in 2008.

IMHO. Sorry for the pessimism.

[Cindy]

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[henderson field]

"...the drug cartels...making billions..."

That brings up an interesting point. What if, as many of us suspect, the drug business is a major funding apparatus for both political parties.
If that is true, then funding and not votes would be the major motivation for keeping the borders open.
Is it not true that by far the greatest number of illegal drugs come across the Mexican border?

[B4Ranch]

"Who ever imagined that terrorists would use passenger planes to crash into tall buildings?"
Tom Clancy.

And the US Pentagon brainers.

[B4Ranch]

ALERT: By 2004 we will have 30 to 40 MILLION illegal aliens in the US!

With that number you can forget ever getting them out because they will be in too many political offices.

Understood?

[B4Ranch]

ping to #46

[politicalwit]

" lemonade stand again"

No, no, no...the republican party has "class. It's Republican's Raspberry Party Punch. (leaves a bitter taste in your mouth.)