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To: wardaddy
Are there skinheads where you are Bob?

I'm not sure what they were. When I was married to a Brasilian Morena, we went to the beach one weekend and ran into some ass who was tattooed all over with "White Power" and other lovely little thoughts. I don't recall exactly what they all said, but they weren't the teachings of Jesus. Yeah, his head was shaven, too. I don't know if he had a diploma from "Skinhead Charm School", but he was otherwise enrolled in correspondence school. He had friends waiting for him just off the peer and my wife and I were walking with my uncle and cousin back to the shore. I recall is that she grabbed my arm and started to look pale, which was quite a trick for her.

My uncle and cousin, both 6"+ ex marineswalked right into the guy nearly bowling him over while my wife and I strolled past. He just looked and didn't do anything. It took a few minutes to dig my wife's fingers out of my arms. She was frightened and said she'd never seen anything like that before. She did enjoy watching my kin bump into him, though.

I wont forget how scared my wife was, though.

I believe that the left will try to create a divide among conservatives and Latinos. That is the point of my post. Latinos as a whole did not line up for the left on their plantation. They will stamp and spit at any attempt for conservatives to bring more in the fold. I think that this is a concern for this and we need to be careful. An "Anti-Hispanic" backlash is not the same as an "Anti-Illegal" backlash.

Oh, one more detail, his pals watching us walk off the dock just stood there. They had tattoos as well, but the thing that stuck out in my mind was that one of them had a ~6 month old baby. I wonder if they let him watch "Barney"? Purple, you know...one of those.

Anyway, I've seen racism against Latinos manifest itself here in Boca over the years. I'm not exaggerating, I know the difference between reasonable reactions and singling out individuals.

I suspect these days that's not as much an issue as it was 10 years ago, much to my relief.

At any rate, there are many, many Hispanic FReepers on this site or those with Hispanic kin. My comments were not forwarded to any FReepers but a commentary on "Anti-Hispanic" versus "Anti-Illegal"sentiment.

How does one look at an individual and automatically know they are illegal? "Hispanic" isn't a qualifier. Neither is "Mexican", believe it or not. I believe the harshest action should be taken against illegals. They are criminals who make a mockery of all those who worked so hard to legally comply with our system of immigration.

Yet I worry that some people may be compelled into expanding the concept into a "blanket" generalization of who shouldn't be here.

I will fight against that as hard as I can.

OK, so the post is about an illegal rapist. I hope they castrate him with a pair of rusty plyers.

Per the article:

"Yes, there is fear," said Ramona Ramirez, who owns a corner deli-supermarket where she says business is off and her bread delivery man is now afraid to come. "They are attacking all the Hispanics, and it is only one person. We don't know what will happen."

These people are attacking "all Hispanics", legal or not. What do you think about this? Anyone?

131 posted on 07/17/2005 2:45:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ScreamingFist
I don't think you understood my post.

I am against people targetting an entire immigrant group because of one illegal who comitted a major crime. These people are attacking an entire Hispanic community over the actions of an individual.

I would defend the legal Asians here for the same reason. the entire community should not be condemned for the actions of an individual.

Read the above post. What do you think? Wouldn't you want some one to be on your side?

Then again, I am vehemently against illegal immigration. Remember, the issues are seperate. My Asian friends are honorable, hard working conservatives. I wouldn't permit them to be targetted and grouped with Asians who come here illegally. We are protecting innocents here.

132 posted on 07/17/2005 2:50:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

Man, when I lived in south Florida 15 years ago it was majority Latin, then blacks and then non-latin whites....and then a handful of crackers.

Boca was pretty Jewish as I recall

I have never seen a skinhead in nashville and the klan presence in Tennessee is tiny....don't know any of them either.'

but there is growing resentment against illegals....percieved or real/

my view (a minority one) is that there is too much immigration period....doesn't matter where it's coming from really although the more "different" ...the more complicated arguably.

Mexico is on the hot seat just because they are there....next door.

My daughters are technocally half Maronite genetically and my oldest has the complexion of say Danny Thomas.

Where they live 50 miles north of NYC with mom and husband in law, they beef mostly with Puerto Rican kids....

I believe that when the heat is really put on illegals like deportation in droves....that indig Mexican-Gringos will reflexively defend their own ethnicity.

it's human nature and complicated....woulda been easier to fix this 30 years ago....


136 posted on 07/17/2005 8:10:10 AM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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To: Caipirabob
I believe that the left will try to create a divide among conservatives and Latinos.

Many Conservatives will help, unfortunately. Even 50 years ago, it was clear that when many (if not most) "Anglos" used the term "illegal" or "wetback," the really meant all Hispanics, even those who were citizens and whose family have been here since before the Mayflower.

When I was growing up, there were separate schools for Hispanics (and Negroes, for that matter), separate theatre sections, separate drinking fountains, etc. I used to argue with (reasonable wealthy) Hispanics about their support of the Democrats; these Democrats were taxing and regulating Hispanic businesses just as unfairly as they did Anglo businesses. The Hispanics agreed about the taxes, but they felt that Republicans just hated "brown people" and wanted to drive them out of the country. Fifty years hasn't changed things much.

137 posted on 07/17/2005 8:18:05 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Caipirabob
I would wager that most of the ardent anti-illegals here on FR wouldn't think twice about suspending the U.S. Constitution in their quest to effect their Final Solution to the illegal immigrant problem.
141 posted on 07/17/2005 8:22:15 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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