Hey where did I say it was undesirable, I quoted to you scripture take from it what you wish.
What exactly do you think a "sacrament" is? Do you think the sacraments as defined by the Catholics are delusions and not real occasions of God's action?
Question 1) Catholic sac's are Baptism, First Communion (in the catholic church), Confirmation (in the catholic church), Marriage (in the catholic church), Last Rights, Confession (to a priest)
Question 2) All things are actions of God! how many times was Pharaoh ready to conceded when *God* hardend his heart!
Mary's role in our salvation is simply that without her "fiat" to God, Jesus would not have been born
I see God needed Mary right?
We Catholics believe that saints exist, now, in heaven (not that heaven is empty of human souls until the final resurrection on the last day). Just as you may ask a friend to pray for something that is important to you, you may ask a saint to pray.
And are these saints omni-present?
To reject this, you must either believe that saints are not, yet, in heaven, or else that they cannot ever hear anything we say to them, or else that in heaven they never pray, or else that it is inappropriate to ask someone else to pray for you.
Bingo! I will add that you are using a saint as a medium to God and the Bible clearly states that such behavior is wrong.
I didn't say you said it was undesirable. However, you quoted that scripture IN RESPONSE TO a post about a part of the Catholic liturgy which involves some repetition of words. If you don't have a problem with the repetitive FORM of this Catholic liturgy, then what ARE you criticizing? Do you think Catholics are incapable of simulataneously repeating words in a prayer and yet meaning the words each time?