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To: old and tired
I am apparently mistaking about Mary's roll in the redemptive process. As for the presence of the the actual body of Christ in the Eucharist, I once read that Martin Luther even held to the belief in the presence of the body of Christ? Although clearly Protestants do not agree today.
201 posted on 07/15/2005 1:03:33 PM PDT by street_lawyer
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An excellent documentary book to read is "Salvation on Sand Mountain".

It's about rural, small Southern Churches that literally take up rattlesnake handling. A very interesting read as the author himself eventually handles the snakes at a service.
211 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:30 PM PDT by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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To: street_lawyer; old and tired

The Catholic doctrine is transubstantiation, that the bread and wine cease to be bread and wine, except for in formal accident, and become the body and blood of Christ. That belief is called transubstantiation. Many Lutherans, as well as most Anglicans (and, strangely, even Benny Hinn!) believe that. Many others believe in consubstantiation, that the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ, but also remain bread and wine. The distinction is very important from a Greek perspective of reality, but difficult to express in English. In fact, I wonder if most of the Lutherans who promote consubstantiation simply don't exactly understand what transubstantiation is (after all, most American Catholics don't).


341 posted on 07/15/2005 2:21:42 PM PDT by dangus
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