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Christian Adoption Agency Nixes Catholics
AP ^ | 07/15/05

Posted on 07/15/2005 11:29:25 AM PDT by nypokerface

JACKSON, Miss. - A Christian adoption agency that receives money from Choose Life license plate fees said it does not place children with Roman Catholic couples because their religion conflicts with the agency's "Statement of Faith."

Bethany Christian Services stated the policy in a letter to a Jackson couple this month, and another Mississippi couple said they were rejected for the same reason last year.

"It has been our understanding that Catholicism does not agree with our Statement of Faith," Bethany director Karen Stewart wrote. "Our practice to not accept applications from Catholics was an effort to be good stewards of an adoptive applicant's time, money and emotional energy."

Sandy and Robert Steadman, who learned of Bethany's decision in a July 8 letter, said their priest told them the faith statement did not conflict with Catholic teaching.

Loria Williams of nearby Ridgeland said she and her husband, Wes, had a similar experience when they started to pursue an adoption in September 2004.

"I can't believe an agency that's nationwide would act like this," Loria Williams said. "There was an agency who was Christian based but wasn't willing to help people across the board."

The agency is based in Grand Rapids, Mich., and has offices in 30 states, including three in Mississippi. Its Web site does not refer to any specific branch of Christianity.

Stewart told the Jackson Clarion-Ledger that the board will review its policy, but she didn't specify which aspects will be addressed.

The Web site says all Bethany staff and adoptive applicants personally agree with the faith statement, which describes belief in the Christian Church and the Scripture.

"As the Savior, Jesus takes away the sins of the world," the statement says in part. "Jesus is the one in whom we are called to put our hope, our only hope for forgiveness of sin and for reconciliation with God and with one another."

Sandy Steadman said she was hurt and disappointed that Bethany received funds from the Choose Life car license plates. "I know of a lot of Catholics who get those tags," she said.

She added: "If it's OK to accept our money, it should be OK to open your home to us as a family."

Bethany is one of 24 adoption and pregnancy counseling centers in Mississippi that receives money from the sale of Choose Life tags, a special plate that motorists can obtain with an extra fee.

Of $244,000 generated by the sale of the tags in 2004, Bethany received $7,053, said Geraldine Gray, treasurer of Choose Life Mississippi, which distributes the money.

"It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the Catholics," Gray said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: adoption; bornagainbigots; dangus; dangusposted391; postedinwrongforum; talibaptists
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To: street_lawyer; old and tired

The Catholic doctrine is transubstantiation, that the bread and wine cease to be bread and wine, except for in formal accident, and become the body and blood of Christ. That belief is called transubstantiation. Many Lutherans, as well as most Anglicans (and, strangely, even Benny Hinn!) believe that. Many others believe in consubstantiation, that the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ, but also remain bread and wine. The distinction is very important from a Greek perspective of reality, but difficult to express in English. In fact, I wonder if most of the Lutherans who promote consubstantiation simply don't exactly understand what transubstantiation is (after all, most American Catholics don't).


341 posted on 07/15/2005 2:21:42 PM PDT by dangus
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To: jw777

>>You do ask a Priest for forgiveness and confess your sins to he or she right?<<

She???


342 posted on 07/15/2005 2:21:44 PM PDT by netmilsmom (There was no sign of a pile of gnawed hearts.....)
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To: netmilsmom

i'm on the defensive right now. shhhh :)


343 posted on 07/15/2005 2:22:57 PM PDT by jw777
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To: jw777

What the hell's wrong with you?

Catholics are EXACTLY as Christian as these people.

Just because they're reworking themselves into some sort of hybrid Christian doesn't mean they're making any sense.


344 posted on 07/15/2005 2:23:43 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: jw777
I did not intend for my post to be anything other than a note of the difference in words.

Hogwash. Hogwash. Hogwash. Do not further insult us by insinuating that you meant something other than EXACTLY what you posted.

If you are sincere, why not just ask the mods to remove your offensive post? That's right: You won't, because you meant it. Of course you do. If you didn't, you would not have also posted this:

However, It's not called the Roman Christian Church and the religion Christianity is not called Cathlianity.

So, why don't you mention Baptists? Lutherans? Episcopalians? Because you are an anti-Catholic bigot.

345 posted on 07/15/2005 2:25:00 PM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: jw777

>>i'm on the defensive right now. shhhh :)<<


LOLOL!
Okay, I'll let it slide.


346 posted on 07/15/2005 2:25:08 PM PDT by netmilsmom (There was no sign of a pile of gnawed hearts.....)
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To: nypokerface

is this an episcopal or one of the other "homosexual" friendly denominations?

Could it be they support adoptions of children to homosexuals?

This is just tooooo weird.

(perhaps it is the woman priest thing)

Is the agency owned by lawyers?


347 posted on 07/15/2005 2:25:40 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Yes, I did ask them to clarify and, yes, that's exactly what they meant. I've run into plenty of Catholics that say "Catholic" instead of "Christian" and once I've pointed the distinction out to them, they still sometimes fumble and then correct themselves when they realize what they've said.

I'm having a hard time following. Are you saying that your Catholic friends believe that only Catholics are Christians??
348 posted on 07/15/2005 2:26:15 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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To: grellis

>>Because you are an anti-Catholic bigot.<<

Hey Lady! Good to see you!


349 posted on 07/15/2005 2:26:18 PM PDT by netmilsmom (There was no sign of a pile of gnawed hearts.....)
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To: armydoc

Putting aside your quotes out of context, yes, it is possible to be in apostolic succession without attaining salvation of yourself. The sacraments do not rely apon the sanctity of the person who validly performs them, but rather on the grace of God alone.


350 posted on 07/15/2005 2:26:57 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Cincinna
Roman Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants are all Christians. This anti-Roman Catholic, anti-Pope prejudice is getting boring.

Orthodox and Protestants are Christians, just not "saved" Christians??

"We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff." Pope Boniface VIII in his Bull Unam Sanctam issued in 1302

"Where the necessity of salvation is concerned all the faithful of Christ must be subject to the Roman Pontiff, as we are taught by Holy Scripture, the testimony of the holy fathers, and by that constitution of our predecessor of happy memory, Boniface VIII, which begins Unam Sanctam." Pope Leo X, Fifth Lateran Council (1512-1517)
351 posted on 07/15/2005 2:26:59 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: netmilsmom
You have no clue what you are talking about.

I know what the Legion of Mary is "supposed to be". What some people make of Mary and those groups is another thing. And since you don't know me or the lady I was referring to, how do you know what she thinks or believes? A great many uninformed, elderly, and immigrant Catholics have beliefs and practices that may vary with church doctrine and dogma. So it seems to me that you're the one who doesn't know what she's talking about and are also rather rude and arrogant.

352 posted on 07/15/2005 2:27:22 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair ("Suppose you're an idiot. Suppose you're a congressman. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain)
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To: MEGoody
Catholics are most definitely Christians. However, this particular PRIVATE agency has a statement of faith and apparently will not place children with anyone who does not agree with their statement of faith. Whether we like it or not, they are a private group, and so, they have that right.

You're absolutely right. Right up until the point where they took public money.

When they took money from the state, they opened themselves up to scrutiny.

353 posted on 07/15/2005 2:28:28 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mike182d
I beg to differ, further. The first "Christians" thought of themselves as just a sect of Judaism. The seperation didn't come until later.

Which doesn't change my assertion that Jesus started Christianity.

354 posted on 07/15/2005 2:28:30 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: netmilsmom
Hi lady--I'm just catching this bilge.

Bethany is based in Grand Rapids. I feel a road trip coming on. I do not believe that a simple phone call will suffice.

355 posted on 07/15/2005 2:28:51 PM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: what's up
Perhaps you should consider that a word is a word and a connotation is just that.
Your opinion is your opinion. Just because you were a Catholic with apparently poor CCD classes does not make you an expert. People more learned than you would not continue to use a word that insults another.
Christ would understand that insulting is not the way to change a mind. Do you?
356 posted on 07/15/2005 2:29:16 PM PDT by netmilsmom (There was no sign of a pile of gnawed hearts.....)
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To: nypokerface

Statement of Faith

Bethany Christian Services is founded upon the Scriptures which reveal the triune God. Members of the national board, local boards, staff and adoptive applicants indicate their personal agreement with Bethany’s Statement of Faith by signing below.

I believe that the sovereign, triune God created the world out of nothing and sustains His creation. The heavens and earth are His handiwork. He made man and woman in His image and likeness as the crown of creation. All creation reflects His greatness and power.

I believe that God created the family, giving Adam and Eve the responsibility to conceive, bear and nurture children. As the creator of life, God Himself begins each human life at conception and gives to each person, as His image bearer, meaning, dignity and value.

I believe that sin entered the world when Adam and Eve disobeyed God and sought to be independent of Him. As a result of this Fall, all people are estranged from God and live in a world permeated by sin.

I believe that God, by His grace, provided redemption and restoration in Jesus Christ for all who repent and believe. As the Savior, Jesus takes away the sins of the world. Jesus is the one in whom we are called to put our hope, our only hope for forgiveness of sin and for reconciliation with God and with one another.

I believe that in all matters of faith and life, the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are the final authority. The Scriptures point us with full reliability to Jesus, God’s Son. The Scriptures tell us that we receive forgiveness of sins by faith in Jesus Christ, and that God provides salvation by grace alone for those who repent and believe.

I believe that forgiveness comes through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, God’s Son, who was made flesh, took our place in death, rose from the dead, and is now in glory with the Father interceding and praying for His people.

I believe that God, through His Spirit, lovingly calls, redeems and adopts us into His family, the Church and that, in gratitude for God’s saving love in Christ, we are called to live a life of faithfulness and obedience according to the scriptures.

I believe that Jesus, through His Spirit, is presently directing God’s work of making all things new.

I believe that the Christian Church, as the community of believers, has an obligation to protect, preserve, and enhance life as fully as possible for each person, born and unborn, from the beginning to the end of life. As Christians we are called to a life of faith into an ongoing ministry until that mission is completed by the coming of the Kingdom in its fullness. The Holy Spirit empowers us to fulfill that calling.

I, along with all followers of Christ, believe and wait expectantly for the triumphant return of Jesus Christ our King. At that time, I believe that Jesus Christ will gather us to Himself as one complete family and will, throughout eternity, fully enhance the lives of His children as citizens of His kingdom, sons and daughters in our Father’s house. As His children we long hopefully for that day to appear and we face that day without fear, for the Judge is our Savior and Lord. To Him be the glory.


357 posted on 07/15/2005 2:30:02 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: grellis

Here come the Michiganders! Wolverines!!!


358 posted on 07/15/2005 2:30:33 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: dangus; Between the Lines

Your "Marion" is much better to look at than mine ;'}


359 posted on 07/15/2005 2:31:27 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NormB
I think I feel a zot coming on...

Maybe you shouldn't stand under tall trees, pal.

360 posted on 07/15/2005 2:31:41 PM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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