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Christian Adoption Agency Nixes Catholics
AP ^ | 07/15/05

Posted on 07/15/2005 11:29:25 AM PDT by nypokerface

JACKSON, Miss. - A Christian adoption agency that receives money from Choose Life license plate fees said it does not place children with Roman Catholic couples because their religion conflicts with the agency's "Statement of Faith."

Bethany Christian Services stated the policy in a letter to a Jackson couple this month, and another Mississippi couple said they were rejected for the same reason last year.

"It has been our understanding that Catholicism does not agree with our Statement of Faith," Bethany director Karen Stewart wrote. "Our practice to not accept applications from Catholics was an effort to be good stewards of an adoptive applicant's time, money and emotional energy."

Sandy and Robert Steadman, who learned of Bethany's decision in a July 8 letter, said their priest told them the faith statement did not conflict with Catholic teaching.

Loria Williams of nearby Ridgeland said she and her husband, Wes, had a similar experience when they started to pursue an adoption in September 2004.

"I can't believe an agency that's nationwide would act like this," Loria Williams said. "There was an agency who was Christian based but wasn't willing to help people across the board."

The agency is based in Grand Rapids, Mich., and has offices in 30 states, including three in Mississippi. Its Web site does not refer to any specific branch of Christianity.

Stewart told the Jackson Clarion-Ledger that the board will review its policy, but she didn't specify which aspects will be addressed.

The Web site says all Bethany staff and adoptive applicants personally agree with the faith statement, which describes belief in the Christian Church and the Scripture.

"As the Savior, Jesus takes away the sins of the world," the statement says in part. "Jesus is the one in whom we are called to put our hope, our only hope for forgiveness of sin and for reconciliation with God and with one another."

Sandy Steadman said she was hurt and disappointed that Bethany received funds from the Choose Life car license plates. "I know of a lot of Catholics who get those tags," she said.

She added: "If it's OK to accept our money, it should be OK to open your home to us as a family."

Bethany is one of 24 adoption and pregnancy counseling centers in Mississippi that receives money from the sale of Choose Life tags, a special plate that motorists can obtain with an extra fee.

Of $244,000 generated by the sale of the tags in 2004, Bethany received $7,053, said Geraldine Gray, treasurer of Choose Life Mississippi, which distributes the money.

"It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the Catholics," Gray said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: adoption; bornagainbigots; dangus; dangusposted391; postedinwrongforum; talibaptists
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To: rwfromkansas

>> I would presume that Scripture would have a little something to say about it if theologically Mary is the Queen of Heaven. <<

It does:

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Revelations 12:1

This woman in this prophecy does represent the Church, but the it is very plain that she is the Mother of Christ (cf. Rev 12:5). The Blessed Mother, by saying "Thy will be done," and bringing Christ into the world is the embodiment of the Church.


401 posted on 07/15/2005 2:57:50 PM PDT by dangus
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To: nickcarraway
I am convinced that even if there is confusion over theological principles anyone who professes to be a follower of Christ, who believes in His divinity and ever lasing life as a gift of God through the propitiatory death of His Son, is as much a Christian as anyone.

Personally, I do not judge a person based upon his religious affiliation. There are more than 125,000 distinct denominations but there is only one God.
402 posted on 07/15/2005 2:57:59 PM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: Warren_Piece

Our friends in VA, Baptist pastor and his wife, are adopting through Catholic Charities. They said CC was the most supportive and helpful of all the agencies they contacted. They are in their 40's and have some health problems, so thought they would be unable to adopt at all.


403 posted on 07/15/2005 2:58:35 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The important thing about Mary, as I said, is her perfect discipleship

Some may take issue with this in the light of Mark 3:21, 31.

404 posted on 07/15/2005 2:58:53 PM PDT by what's up
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To: rwfromkansas

I've noticed that too. It's sad..


405 posted on 07/15/2005 2:59:01 PM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: rwfromkansas

" Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."


406 posted on 07/15/2005 2:59:59 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mike182d
The Catholic Church started Christianity. How is it not "Christian."

If that is the position of Catholics, then maybe this adoption agency is on to something...
407 posted on 07/15/2005 3:00:59 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Cute proof-texting.

But, unless you actually believe you can be saved by living a life of sin and hating Jesus, you are misinterpreting it.


408 posted on 07/15/2005 3:01:12 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: nypokerface

Some people do not consider Catholics to be Christians. Oh, boy, what nasty things I could say about that opinion!


409 posted on 07/15/2005 3:01:14 PM PDT by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: netmilsmom
Yes, He speaks to me all the time.

Forgive me if I don't respond to you anymore. I'm not finding the conversation profitable.

410 posted on 07/15/2005 3:01:22 PM PDT by what's up
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To: ArrogantBustard

And 'world' does not mean everybody everywhere. Do a word study. It is in reference to people in all parts of the world.


411 posted on 07/15/2005 3:01:59 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: safisoft
The Catholic Church started Christianity. How is it not "Christian." If that is the position of Catholics, then maybe this adoption agency is on to something...

I think this one has already been dealt with.

Jesus Chris, one being with the Father, founded the Church, and it was within that Church that his disciples later began calling themselves Christian. It looks to me like the person who posted the thread you are concerned about has already clarified.
412 posted on 07/15/2005 3:05:27 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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To: InterestedQuestioner
I'm having a hard time following. Are you saying that your Catholic friends believe that only Catholics are Christians??

No. I'm saying that there are Catholics that I have known that speak as though Catholic and Christian is the same thing and, in a few rare cases, never seemed to ponder the possibility of a non-Catholic Christian. They use the word "Catholic" and "Christian" interchangibly. I think that suggests that part of the reason why Protestants in the South ask people if they are "Catholic or Christian". They may be using "Christian" interchangibly with "Protestant".

Of course in the broader sense, there are indeed Catholics who don't think of Protestants as proper Christians just as there are Protestants who don't think that Catholics are proper Christians. Don't think that it doesn't go both ways. Perhaps you don't see it when Catholics are a minority but one can see it when Catholics are in the majority and I can certainly point out that my mother was denied a church blessing for her marriage and thus communion because my father (having a chip on his shoulder from growing up as a minority Protestant kid in a majority Catholic city) didn't think it fair that he had to promise the Catholic church to raise any potential children Catholic. As I mentioned earlier, I have Catholic-Protestant marriages in my family going back well over a century on both sides and I can tell you with absolute certainty that both Catholics and Protestants often did not (and in some cases still do not) treat each other with respect.

Again, I am not singling out Catholics. Protestants certainly do it to. And I think it's stupid no matter which way it goes.

413 posted on 07/15/2005 3:06:26 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: rwfromkansas
I was unaware that quoting Scripture constitutes a "crappy" (your word) statement of faith.

I'll have to remember that.

I think you probably know that I'm Catholic (and therefore reject the heresy of universal salvation). However, any theory of Salvation you want to propose as Christian must not contradict St. John's description of Jesus. Unless you want to call John the Baptist a false prophet ...

414 posted on 07/15/2005 3:08:20 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Cute proof-texting.

But, unless you actually believe you can be saved by living a life of sin and hating Jesus, you are misinterpreting it.


rwfromkansas, respectfully, do you consider yourself to be a Calvinist?
415 posted on 07/15/2005 3:08:22 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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To: k2blader
I've noticed that too. It's sad.

It's not "sad" to us. It's an acknowledgement that we adhere to the universal authority of the Church Jesus founded, the Bride of Christ.

416 posted on 07/15/2005 3:09:18 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: jw777
I didn't think anything in any of my posts suggested that I thought one was better than the other. I was just posting the information that I've read on what the differences between Lutheran and Catholicism are. I find them interesting. Someone posted back to me that I was wrong, I'm not sure who that was right now, but didn't give any back-up information on what about my post was wrong, so I have to assume that it was just his OPINION that the information in my post was wrong. If the information is wrong, I'd be curious to know what about it makes it wrong from a Catholic's viewpoint. However, it's not like it will change my opinion on Catholicism. There's nothing wrong with Catholicism, it's just not what I am. I'm Lutheran, and happy with the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod and plan on remaining Lutheran unless the Church starts teaching something that goes against Scripture.

That being said, I still think it's a private agency that can have it's own private rules for who it does business with. A lot of people think that because it's a "free country" they're free to do ANYTHING they want, which is actually the most intriguing part of the article for me.

417 posted on 07/15/2005 3:13:15 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (Help! Help! I'm being repressed!)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Question_Assumptions,

All I can say is, I've never met a Catholic who saw Protestants as non-Christians, so that comes across as puzzling to me, and I have known Catholics from communities where Catholics were the majority.

I've always been taught that Protestants are our neighbors, and "separated bretheren," which has more recently given way to the term brethern.


418 posted on 07/15/2005 3:15:02 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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To: VeritatisSplendor

I wanted to join a local homeschool support group but couldn't quite agree to their very Calvinistic statement of faith. (I'm high-church Anglican) When the leader called me to ask why I hadn't signed the statement and sent in my check for membership. I plainly told her that after thinking about it and praying about it, I felt the only statements I could sign would be the Apostle's or Nicene Creeds. Her answer..."oh, those are man made!" My husband and I rolled on the floor laughing. I mean, puhleese, who wrote her statement?
As for support groups, I started my own. ;)


419 posted on 07/15/2005 3:15:25 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

LOL!


420 posted on 07/15/2005 3:19:07 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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