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Christian Adoption Agency Nixes Catholics
AP ^ | 07/15/05

Posted on 07/15/2005 11:29:25 AM PDT by nypokerface

JACKSON, Miss. - A Christian adoption agency that receives money from Choose Life license plate fees said it does not place children with Roman Catholic couples because their religion conflicts with the agency's "Statement of Faith."

Bethany Christian Services stated the policy in a letter to a Jackson couple this month, and another Mississippi couple said they were rejected for the same reason last year.

"It has been our understanding that Catholicism does not agree with our Statement of Faith," Bethany director Karen Stewart wrote. "Our practice to not accept applications from Catholics was an effort to be good stewards of an adoptive applicant's time, money and emotional energy."

Sandy and Robert Steadman, who learned of Bethany's decision in a July 8 letter, said their priest told them the faith statement did not conflict with Catholic teaching.

Loria Williams of nearby Ridgeland said she and her husband, Wes, had a similar experience when they started to pursue an adoption in September 2004.

"I can't believe an agency that's nationwide would act like this," Loria Williams said. "There was an agency who was Christian based but wasn't willing to help people across the board."

The agency is based in Grand Rapids, Mich., and has offices in 30 states, including three in Mississippi. Its Web site does not refer to any specific branch of Christianity.

Stewart told the Jackson Clarion-Ledger that the board will review its policy, but she didn't specify which aspects will be addressed.

The Web site says all Bethany staff and adoptive applicants personally agree with the faith statement, which describes belief in the Christian Church and the Scripture.

"As the Savior, Jesus takes away the sins of the world," the statement says in part. "Jesus is the one in whom we are called to put our hope, our only hope for forgiveness of sin and for reconciliation with God and with one another."

Sandy Steadman said she was hurt and disappointed that Bethany received funds from the Choose Life car license plates. "I know of a lot of Catholics who get those tags," she said.

She added: "If it's OK to accept our money, it should be OK to open your home to us as a family."

Bethany is one of 24 adoption and pregnancy counseling centers in Mississippi that receives money from the sale of Choose Life tags, a special plate that motorists can obtain with an extra fee.

Of $244,000 generated by the sale of the tags in 2004, Bethany received $7,053, said Geraldine Gray, treasurer of Choose Life Mississippi, which distributes the money.

"It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the Catholics," Gray said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: adoption; bornagainbigots; dangus; dangusposted391; postedinwrongforum; talibaptists
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To: old and tired
I am apparently mistaking about Mary's roll in the redemptive process. As for the presence of the the actual body of Christ in the Eucharist, I once read that Martin Luther even held to the belief in the presence of the body of Christ? Although clearly Protestants do not agree today.
201 posted on 07/15/2005 1:03:33 PM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: what's up
Thanks for answering my question. Seriously. I am not being sarcastic here. Obviously you have no knowledge of any of the questions I put before you (i.e. the origin of the bible, the apostolic succession, etc.) That having been established, I now know that I do not need to waste my time answering you. I would be happy to do so if you were genuinely interested, you are not. I would also be happy to debate you if you had a firm grounding in the matters I questioned you about in my earlier post, but you don't, so I won't.

And don't misrepresent...it's not becoming. I never dissed Mary.

Well, okay. But if you spoke about my mother in the tone in which you are speaking about Jesus' Mother, I'd be pretty insulted.

202 posted on 07/15/2005 1:04:20 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: wideawake

"Of course not. You can't be a Christian unless you own a copy of The Prayer of Jabez or have been personally healed by Benny Hinn."


Don't forget about the rattlesnake handling.


203 posted on 07/15/2005 1:04:20 PM PDT by ArmedNReady (Demand That Your Congressmen Declare islam a Terrorist Organization)
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To: Roos_Girl
And, in general, have to trust the Lutheran Church to "get it right". It seems to me though, from the above information from the Lutheran Church, that Catholicism doesn't meet the Statement of Faith from the adoption agency.

You go to the Lutherans to learn about Catholic belief? Do you also go to the Chevy dealership to learn about Ford automobiles, or to Democratic party headquarters to learn about the Republican platform?

204 posted on 07/15/2005 1:04:36 PM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: what's up

explain "thinking she's better than she was"?


205 posted on 07/15/2005 1:05:47 PM PDT by MoefromMs
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To: Pyro7480
Jesus gave authority to continue spreading the Gospel to His Apostles. The Apostles appointed successors, bishops, to continue the mission. There are only 2 branches that have valid apostolic succession: Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

So the Orthodox maintain "valid" apostolic succession without obtaining salvation themselves?

"We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff." Pope Boniface VIII in his Bull Unam Sanctam issued in 1302

"Where the necessity of salvation is concerned all the faithful of Christ must be subject to the Roman Pontiff, as we are taught by Holy Scripture, the testimony of the holy fathers, and by that constitution of our predecessor of happy memory, Boniface VIII, which begins Unam Sanctam." Pope Leo X, Fifth Lateran Council (1512-1517)
206 posted on 07/15/2005 1:05:47 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: street_lawyer
I understand that if the teaching is not in the Catholic Catechism it is not dogma? If so then I stand corrected.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains of all the Church's dogmatic teachings, plus commentary on those teachings.

207 posted on 07/15/2005 1:06:44 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Between the Lines
Any church that doesn't laugh at itself is probably a cult.

That's probably a pretty good rule of thumb.
208 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:04 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner
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To: Warren_Piece; NYer; wideawake
Do you mean the Apocrypha? I've read them and have no idea why Luther would exclude them. I saw no contradictions to Protestant teachings - but I am not a theologian.

Oh yes, they do indeed! I'll have to post more on this later. Got to get back to work.

Hey, other Catholic folk, feel free to jump in here and answer Warren's question.

209 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:05 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Warren_Piece

The books of the Apocrypha, Jewish in origin, were not considered Scripture by any rabbinical authority. The Jews themselves have never viewed the books as inspired.

Thus, their rejection as Holy Scripture by Protestants.


210 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:12 PM PDT by Skooz (Political Correctness will eventually destroy America)
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To: All
An excellent documentary book to read is "Salvation on Sand Mountain".

It's about rural, small Southern Churches that literally take up rattlesnake handling. A very interesting read as the author himself eventually handles the snakes at a service.
211 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:30 PM PDT by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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To: FormerLib

Mary is worshipped, but not adored.


212 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:41 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: GipperGal
you have no knowledge of any of the questions I put before you

Nice of you to assume I have no knowledge of these matters. Actually, I do. But why should I answer your questions when you did not address the question I put to you originally. LOL. Get real.

Your mother may be a nice lady, but if people called her "the Queen of Heaven" I would be just as cynical as I am when Mary is addressed this way.

213 posted on 07/15/2005 1:08:16 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Campion
You go to the Lutherans to learn about Catholic belief? Do you also go to the Chevy dealership to learn about Ford automobiles, or to Democratic party headquarters to learn about the Republican platform?

I bet you go to Catholics to learn what non-Catholic Christians believe, huh?

214 posted on 07/15/2005 1:09:15 PM PDT by Skooz (Political Correctness will eventually destroy America)
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To: Mr. Lucky; jw777
You started this on purpose, didn't you?

Well, he's only removed from 666 by 111.....

215 posted on 07/15/2005 1:09:35 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Campion
Hee hee

This:
2. The doctrine of justification. Lutherans believe that a person is saved by God's grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. The Roman Catholic Church, while at times using similar language, still officially holds that faith, in order to save, must be accompanied by (or "infused with") some "work" or "love" active within a Christian.

reminds me of, what else, a joke (soon I'll run out of denominations to offend).

A man dies and meets St. Peter at the pearly gates. Peter is giving the man a tour of heaven. As they approach a group of people huddled together, Peter tells the man to tip-toe and be very quiet.
"Why?", the man asks.
Peter says, "They're Church of Christ - they think they're the only ones here..."

216 posted on 07/15/2005 1:09:39 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Large buttocks are pleasing to me, nor am I able to lie concerning this matter)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

When Catholics say any prayer in reference of Mary, we say, "Pray for Us."
Any of the Holy Trinity, we say, "Have Mercy on us."

See the difference?


217 posted on 07/15/2005 1:11:05 PM PDT by netmilsmom (There was no sign of a pile of gnawed hearts.....)
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To: wideawake

I wrote my PhD disseration on saints and relics and there is nothing incongrous about this.
"1) His claim that he was spiritually anointed by touching the grave of Aimee Semple McPherson and his further claim that he returns to that grave regularly to be reanointed. Even Catholics, who believe that saints' relics are holy, would find this a strange claim."
In fact the cult of relics grew out of beliefs that souls of saints hovered near their tombs and were available for intercession there.


218 posted on 07/15/2005 1:12:13 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ArmedNReady; Petronski
Don't forget about the rattlesnake handling.


219 posted on 07/15/2005 1:12:23 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: MoefromMs
explain "thinking she's better than she was"?

2 examples:

Protestants agree that Mary was "blessed", but this doesn't mean she was sinless.

Protestants believe that Mary will go to Heaven, but "Queen of Heaven"? Way over the line.

220 posted on 07/15/2005 1:12:53 PM PDT by what's up
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