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1 posted on 07/15/2005 9:07:16 AM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa

Says he's going to put "Final nail in coffin" of Karl Rove story...


2 posted on 07/15/2005 9:07:40 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: RobFromGa

This is going to be fun.


3 posted on 07/15/2005 9:08:00 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch</I><P.Their arrogence is astounding.e........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: RobFromGa

Rob, please do a service on this thread. Usually radio-based threads never actually contain information that the host broadcasts. Try to add comments when Rush says something newsworthy.


7 posted on 07/15/2005 9:09:29 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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Yo Rush check out this thread. Dean is ranting again.

DNC Dean Assails Bush, The 'Three Rs'... Republicans, Rove and Rush.

18 posted on 07/15/2005 9:13:31 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch</I><P.Their arrogence is astounding.e........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: RobFromGa

This is on Drudge right now; apparently what Rush is going to be following, among other things.

Rove Learned CIA Agent's Name From Novak

Jul 15, 8:09 AM (ET)

By JOHN SOLOMON
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050715/D8BBQEVO0.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - Chief presidential adviser Karl Rove testified to a grand jury that he talked with two journalists before they divulged the identity of an undercover CIA officer but that he originally learned about the operative from the news media and not government sources, according to a person briefed on the testimony.

The person, who works in the legal profession and spoke only on condition of anonymity because of grand jury secrecy, told The Associated Press that Rove testified last year that he remembers specifically being told by columnist Robert Novak that Valerie Plame, the wife of a harsh Iraq war critic, worked for the CIA.

Rove testified that Novak originally called him the Tuesday before Plame's identity was revealed in July 2003 to discuss another story.

The conversation eventually turned to Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, a former ambassador who was strongly criticizing the Bush administration's use of faulty intelligence to justify the war in Iraq, the person said.

Rove testified that Novak told him he planned to report in a weekend column that Plame had worked for the CIA, and the circumstances on how her husband traveled to Africa to check bogus claims that Iraq was trying to buy nuclear materials in Niger, according to the source.

Novak's column, citing two Bush administration officials, appeared six days later, touching off a political firestorm and leading to a federal criminal investigation into who leaked Plame's undercover identity. That probe has ensnared presidential aides and reporters in a two-year legal battle.

Rove told the grand jury that by the time Novak had called him, he believes he had similar information about Wilson's wife from another member of the news media but he could not recall which reporter had told him about it first, the person said.

When Novak inquired about Wilson's wife working for the CIA, Rove indicated he had heard something like that, according to the source's recounting of the grand jury testimony.

Rove told the grand jury that three days later, he had a phone conversation with Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper and - in an effort to discredit some of Wilson's allegations - informally told Cooper that he believed Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, though he never used her name, the source said.

An e-mail Cooper recently provided the grand jury shows Cooper reported to his magazine bosses that Rove had described Wilson's wife in a confidential conversation as someone who "apparently works" at the CIA.

Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, said Thursday his client truthfully testified to the grand jury and expected to be exonerated.

"Karl provided all pertinent information to prosecutors a long time ago," Luskin said. "And prosecutors confirmed when he testified most recently in October 2004 that he is not a target of the investigation."

In an interview on CNN earlier Thursday before the latest revelation, Wilson kept up his criticism of the White House, saying Rove's conduct was an "outrageous abuse of power ... certainly worthy of frog-marching out of the White House."

But at the same time, Wilson acknowledged his wife was no longer in an undercover job at the time Novak's column first identified her. "My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity," he said.

Federal law prohibits government officials from divulging the identity of an undercover intelligence officer. But in order to bring charges, prosecutors must prove the official knew the officer was covert and nonetheless knowingly outed his or her identity.

Rove's conversations with Novak and Cooper took place just days after Wilson suggested in a New York Times opinion piece that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.

Democrats continued this week to sharpen their attacks, accusing Rove of compromising a CIA operative's identity just to discredit the political criticism of her husband.

On Thursday, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada pressed for legislation to strip Rove of his clearance for classified information, which he said President Bush should have done already. Instead, Reid said, the Bush administration has attacked its critics: "This is what is known as a cover-up. This is an abuse of power."

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said Democrats were resorting to "partisan war chants."

Across the Capitol, Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J., introduced legislation for an investigation that would compel senior administration officials to turn over records relating to the Plame disclosure.

Pressed to explain its statements of two years ago that Rove wasn't involved in the leak, the White House refused to do so this week.

"If I were to get into discussing this, I would be getting into discussing an investigation that continues and could be prejudging the outcome of the investigation," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.


19 posted on 07/15/2005 9:13:40 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: RobFromGa

After DICK Durban now.


24 posted on 07/15/2005 9:14:10 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch</I><P.Their arrogence is astounding.e........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: RobFromGa
Hey Rush. Mention this.

Sign Petition in Support of President Bush Keeping Karl Rove ^
  Posted by Man50D
On 07/15/2005 8:38:34 AM EDT · 1 reply · 4+ views


freerepublic.com ^
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25 posted on 07/15/2005 9:14:33 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: RobFromGa

Even better....

"PLAME GAME: 'Most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee'..."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050715-121257-9887r.htm


28 posted on 07/15/2005 9:15:57 AM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: RobFromGa

On how Wildon is seeking out the media. All roads lead to Joe Wilson.


31 posted on 07/15/2005 9:16:51 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch</I><P.Their arrogence is astounding.e........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: RobFromGa

FYI... I think the Dems have realized that this is over and are now moving forward with Plan B.

That being: "Fitzgerald is in on the cover up."

Reid hinted at it yesterday on the floor of the Senate.

Watch.


56 posted on 07/15/2005 9:24:27 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: RobFromGa

I just love when this libs call in ..

They just don't get it


58 posted on 07/15/2005 9:24:41 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: RobFromGa

Rush: it was ghoulish for the two Dim senators from Maine to write to Sandra Day O'Connor and ask that she not retire. They may as well have been asking Rehnquist to die.


68 posted on 07/15/2005 9:28:05 AM PDT by RushCrush (Hubba hubba hubba, Dooba Dooba Dooba!)
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To: RobFromGa
Does anyone have a link to the Safire op ed that Rush read on his show yesterday? If so, please post.
100 posted on 07/15/2005 9:43:15 AM PDT by CDB
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

104 posted on 07/15/2005 9:44:27 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: RobFromGa

This female lib caller? Has Barbara Boxer's speech manifestations. Sounds like her; deeper voice; but same affected speech patterns.


125 posted on 07/15/2005 9:54:10 AM PDT by Alia ((To Wilson: Tell me about those names and dates being wrong...))
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To: RobFromGa

Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)


318 posted on 07/17/2005 4:36:37 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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