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Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat
Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo
Have you considered the SUN bleaches everything.
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Most of us are in agreement with that statement, and have been since day one.
OTOH, Beth wants the search to continue, and that's what is being done. We brainstorm to try and help out, in our own small way.
But there will be a day when the search efforts cease, and we know that as well.
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One to two weeks on the hair analysis.
It has to go to Holland.
Got it. Sorry I misunderstood you...
You've got mail;)
I know we're talking about Aruba, but even they would bag evidence wouldn't they? Would this guy be carrying evidence around?
IF they did find her hair on duct tape and a piece of her clothing, I'm wondering how they will tie it to Joran. Fingerprints on the tape would be a biggie....hopefully they belong to him or a Kalpoe or a wannabe judge!!
They are saying the 4 hairs are 30cm in length (which is about 11 7/8" long)
It's all about proportion, lady. That's the essence of my statement and that of Laura Ingraham. Oh, I can also think about numerous things at once while walking and chewing gum. I am definitely not related to Paulus Van der Sloot since Paulus is really not my name. I respect your choices and I merely stated my choice in the matter.
It seemed important enough for the camera man to zoom in on, but has ANYTHING been discussed on TV about this?
JR..NO! The Aruban LE are as dumb as grasshoppers. I mean that. Even us amateur sleuths know more than they do.
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If this is evidence of Natalee's fate and if there are fingerprints on the duct tape, then hopefully they belong to the perp, whoever that may be.
Do you think that is this northwestern area where Ralston was searching on July 1st in the same vicinity where they found the duct tape with the strands of hair?
Members of Texas EquuSearch Joe Huston of Houston, Texas, left, and Gene Ralston of Boise, Idaho throw an air filled ball into the ocean at the mouth of a cave to test the water currents on the northwestern coast of Aruba, Friday, July 1, 2005, in their search for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway who disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island on May 30. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)
Joe Huston of Texas EquuSearch tests the ocean current with an air filled ball at the mouth of a cave on the northwestern coast of Aruba, Friday, July 1, 2005, in a search for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway who disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island on May 30. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)
"They are saying the 4 hairs are 30cm in length (which is about 11 7/8" long)"
IMO this is a good indication that the roots will be on the shafts, since the hairs are all the same length.......what are the chances that 4 hairs would break at the same length otherwise? zero. It seems that dna testing will be more definitive now.
Did you see this, written by Dan Riehl? Not that it would change what has transpired, but it shows that every "eye-witness" has a different concept of what happened initially.
http://www.bloggernews.net/showstory.asp?page=blognews/stories/WN0000309.txt
I'd like to reply specifically to your challenges (you made several, so forgive me if this gets a little long):
if you think that FR cant have an impact, when is the last time you saw Dan Rather?...It is easy to attack us.
I'm not attacking FR at all. I love FR. And I do know that FR can make a difference in some cases. Certainly our Buckhead did so when he exposed the Dan Rather fabrications.
However, exposing the Dan Rather fraud was much different from trying to solve the mystery of a disappearing person from afar.
The evidence that Rather's documents were fabricated was easily discernable by someone with a little expertise in fonts (and the insight to look closely at them). The Rather document was a simple piece of "hard" evidence, posted on the internet for all to examine.
But we have almost no "hard" facts from Aruba. (Unless the blond-hair-on-duct-tape find, reported today, turns out to be hard evidence.) Almost all of what we've had, so far, is this miasma of conflicting reports, many of which have been proved wrong already; and a slew of anonymously posted internet rumors. To me, that stuff is garbage. Like I said earlier, I can imagine people who are resentful or envious of my son posting all kinds of garbage about him too, if he became a subject of notoriety.
If you are as educated as you say you are, help us, help Beth.
I think you may be confusing me with someone else here. I don't think I've ever said anything about my education. I HAVE said several times that I claim no special expertise (although I am an expert on teenaged boys, from being a mom to several of them!).
I DO want to help Beth. That's why I posted a couple of weeks ago that I thought it was a strategic mistake for her to call the Kalpoe boys "violent criminals" and to demand that no country allow them to "walk amongst their people." I think she realized that that was a mistake (but not because she saw my FR posts, LOL), and I'm glad she made the apology. I hope the Kalpoe boys will "turn" and help solve the mystery.
I also posted that I though it would help Beth if she considered trying other strategies beyond focusing so intensely on Joran and the Kalpoes (and maybe she has, but I haven't heard anything about it).
I believe the storys about Joran and his bad temper and I belive that he recently killed a dog.
If someone can post a named, accountable, first-hand source for the dog-killing story, then I'll take it seriously.
Teenaged boys having "bad tempers" -- kicking their younger brothers, getting into occasional shoving matches, etc., just does not seem like strong evidence of sociopathy or capability of committing murder, IMO.
Surely a skilled and experienced therapist like yourself understands the significance of this kind of behavior.
No expertise in therapy here! I'm just a mom of teenaged boys. One of my sons (the one I described above) can be impulsive and immature, and could maybe have been described as "aggressive" a couple of years back; but he's outgrowing it. And I don't think that behavior was a "cry for attention" -- IMO it was just the normal bumps in the road on the way to growing up, for a pretty typical teenaged boy.
As for the bedwetting story, I'd like to know where that came from, too.
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