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Free Republic Opinion Poll on Deciding Factor for Supreme Court Nominees
Free Republic Opinion Poll ^ | July 13, 2005 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/13/2005 3:48:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/13/2005 4:11:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: eleni121
Your whole premise is based on anti Bush and anti PA based on some supposed "attack" on our liberties all the while ignoring the real attacks coming from an enemy within.

No, my premise is that there's no way to independently verify its effectiveness. You can't deal with that fact, so you go off making up strawmen. Not a terribly original approach.

You have not made the slightest inquiry into the PA's effeveness yet you dismiss its value as a way to fight terrorists in this country.

You're still having trouble reading. I haven't dismissed its effectiveness. I said that you haven't made the case for its effectiveness. And you still haven't. (Here's a hint: there's no way you can)

161 posted on 07/14/2005 11:38:09 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest

Here's a hint of you. Talk to any law enforcement person especially someone who works in the Justice Dept. Promise that you will actually listen. Otherwise just keep on dreaming your little delusions.


162 posted on 07/14/2005 12:06:40 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
Talk to any law enforcement person

You're saying my local beat cop is going to be privy to all this secret information? Somehow I doubt it.

especially someone who works in the Justice Dept.

That's what you call "independent verification"? Bizarre world you live in.

163 posted on 07/14/2005 2:23:40 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest

And your world is - off world sounds like it.


164 posted on 07/14/2005 2:35:50 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Final count (probably misaligned, but the #s are clear enough).

Pass 3.4% 81
Maintain balance of court 1.6% 38
Must be moderate 1.2% 28
Must be mainstream 0.9% 22
Gender/race/ethnicity 0.4% 9
Acceptable to minority party 0.3% 8
Friendship/loyalty 0.2% 4

This slays me. If this poll extrapolates to the actual membership of FR, 7% of the folks here are knuckleheads or RINOs. Now, I know that there are all kinds of folks here, but can there really be that high a percentage?

Wait...wait...I take that question back. After all, at LEAST 93% of the people posting to DU are complete dipshits. It stands to reason some of the folks that belong there are probably posting here, simply because they're so dumb they haven't figured out how to get there yet.

I can visualize them now, in fact:

"I keep typing in DU.com and it takes me to this darn spammer page! WTF are they laughing about? Duuuuuh, well, better get those talking points out from the DNC, and spread the word to my friends on Freerepublic. I gotta look up the words I don't understand first, though...[rifling through dictionary]...yank, yay, AH here it is, Yeaaargh!"


165 posted on 07/14/2005 3:50:32 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I voted originalist.

Mostly because I feel that it is a super-ordinate construct which would mostly take care of the marriage and life terms if faithfully applied.

Perhaps if I could split my vote, I'd vote 60% originalist and 40% marriage, family, life.

Certainly anything which decreases the Federalist tyranny etc. would be an improvement.

This is perhaps the last huge and crucial battle on the way to utter mayhem and global government tyranny, imho.


166 posted on 07/14/2005 4:01:33 PM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: WideGlide

Well said.


167 posted on 07/14/2005 4:12:47 PM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: colorado tanker

We the People of the United Nations, in Order to form a more nuanced Union, establish social Justice, insure domestic submission, provide food and shelter for all, promote the penumbra, and secure the emanations of Privacy to the victims of the Patriarchy, do ordain and establish this Constipation for the United Nations of the World.

;)


168 posted on 07/14/2005 6:56:58 PM PDT by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: musanon

The proper procedure is in Article V:

"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."


169 posted on 07/14/2005 7:11:05 PM PDT by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: Ruadh

lol!


170 posted on 07/15/2005 1:15:00 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: daviscupper
Originalist, if that means interpreting the Constitution with great deference to its original meaning. All the rest is just fluff.

Well said.

After all, if or when the course of society appears to be deviating, from what our roots that made us a great country are, then it's time to reset the carriage to the original margin before we are no longer based upon what the direction was from the origin of the Constitution.

In today's society it is so easy to gray out definitions to the point of obscurity and that is the purpose of the Constitution to maintain the gray within the boundaries of what we are as a nation.

All in all, the writers of the Constitution had their sh!t together and were very thoughtful of past indiscretions when they wrote it.

171 posted on 07/15/2005 1:26:45 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Ruadh
"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."

Until deemed useless and unwarranted, by a handful in the judiciary that were appointed to maintain Constitutional directive, decided to put a hand into making law without being representative via vote to achieve the status to do so.

172 posted on 07/15/2005 1:36:16 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS

"Until deemed useless and unwarranted, by a handful in the judiciary that were appointed to maintain Constitutional directive, decided to put a hand into making law without being representative via vote to achieve the status to do so."

I've searched and searched for this article or amendment. I couldn't find it. :(

Is it part of that "living constitution" I keep hearing about?


173 posted on 07/16/2005 5:58:17 PM PDT by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: Ruadh
Is it part of that "living constitution" I keep hearing about?

What else could it be a part of? ; - 0

174 posted on 07/16/2005 6:02:41 PM PDT by EGPWS
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