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SCANDAL IMPLOSION (Rove/Cooper/Wilson)
NY Post ^ | July 12, 2005 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 07/11/2005 11:18:25 PM PDT by Howlin

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To: FreedomCalls

The “Confusion” Of Joseph Wilson
By Vincent Fiore (07/21/04)

Memo to the masses: When you see the words “misspoken,” “erred,” and “confused,” in relation to former ambassador Joseph Wilson, know this: These words are typical beltway qualifiers that seek to say in essence that “I lied,” without ever having to say the word “lied.”

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In his New York Times op-ed, Wilson brazenly declared: “Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq’s nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.”


But as the Senate Intelligence Committee’s July 9 report of this year shows, it is Wilson who twisted intelligence to actually downplay Iraq’s nuclear threat, thereby meeting his own political agenda of helping Kerry win the election in November.

Consider the Senate committee’s findings:

-The panel found that Wilson’s report, “rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, actually bolstered the case for most intelligence analysis.”

(www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39834-2004Jul9)


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-Ambassador Wilson’s wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, “specifically recommended” Wilson for the trip to Africa. In a memo from Plame dated February 12, 2002 to the deputy chief of the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) from Plame, the Senate report concludes that according to the CIA testimony, Plame “offered up his (Wilson) name.” (www.gopusa.com/news/2004/july/0713_wilson_plame_intel.shtml)

-Wilson misled the Washington Post in June of 2003, when he told the paper that the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong." In fact, Wilson had never seen the reports.

When the Senate committee staff asked Wilson how he could have come to that conclusion, Wilson replied he may have “misspoken” (See first paragraph) to reporters.

(www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39834-2004Jul9)

-Contrary to Wilson’s claim’s that the Bush administration understood that it was knowingly passing along questionable information to the American public, the Senate committee found in its investigations that the CIA did not tell the White House it had its own doubts about an Iraq/Niger connection for the procuring of uranium.

Joseph Wilson has had extensive ties to the Democratic Party throughout much of his time in Washington. Wilson is an unabashed supporter and donor to the Kerry/Edwards campaign for the presidency. In 2000, he donated to Vice President Gore’s election, as has his wife, Valerie Plame. In the mid-eighties, Wilson worked for Gore as a congressional staffer. He has donated money to such liberal stalwarts as Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy. He has in the recent past spoken to liberal “527” groups like Win Without War, which is a part of MoveOn.org, the premiere liberal hate group that is renowned for its coarse and hate-inspired political sloganeering.


81 posted on 07/12/2005 12:38:23 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: FreedomCalls

WILSON, VALERIE E
WASHINGTON,DC 20007

N/A/RETIRED

10/11/2004

$372

America Coming Together


82 posted on 07/12/2005 12:39:14 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: FreedomCalls
That she did. If it isn't exactly illegal, it certainly smells to high heaven!

And I still want to know how she managed to have four kids, whilst undercover in dangerous places and who raised them. Or, is this Wilson's trophy second wife and the kids aren't theirs?

83 posted on 07/12/2005 12:39:56 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: kcvl

bttt


84 posted on 07/12/2005 12:42:47 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: kcvl
Retired, RETIRED, now she's retired?
85 posted on 07/12/2005 12:43:39 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: kcvl
American Coming Together.
ACT is continuing to build the largest voter mobilization effort in history.

In 2004, our first year, ACT employed 5,000 canvassers and trained over 80,000 volunteers. Together, their work resulted in the highest Democratic voter turnout in history.

The 2004 presidential election was determined by less than 120,000 votes in Ohio. Countless federal, state and local elections were determined by even smaller margins. Many close races were won by Democrats because of ACT’s work in the battleground states.

In 2005, we will continue to lead the fight against George Bush’s radical right-wing agenda by continuing our work in 7-9 battleground states with key elections in 2005, 2006 and 2008.


86 posted on 07/12/2005 12:46:37 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: nopardons

I wonder how a "covert" CIA operative can be retired while claiming that she was outed by Karl Rove and also manages to donate to a ANTI-AMERICAN group funded in large part by GEORGE SOROS, Mr. Hate America and CROOK?!


America Coming Together


Formed: July 2003

The initial funding for ACT, estimated at $10M, came from George Soros who publically declared his intention to help defeat George Bush.

One of the leading Democratic interest groups dedicated to defeating President Bush in November. Run by longtime Democratic operatives and financed in part by wealthy Democratic donors, the group plans a massive voter mobilization effort in 17 battleground states.


# Ellen Malcolm, president (president, EMILY's List)
# Steve Rosenthal, chief executive officer (former political director, AFL-CIO)
# Minyon Moore (former Chief of Operations, Democratic National Committee)
# Carl Pope, treasurer (executive director, Sierra Club)
# Cecile Richards (president, America Votes)
# Andy Stern (president, Service Employees International Union)

# Peter Lewis (chairman, Progressive Corp.), $10 million pledge
# George Soros (financier), $10 million pledge
# Sierra Club
# $8 million pledged from labor groups, including SEIU


87 posted on 07/12/2005 12:54:25 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Wilson and Plame stink to high heaven and though they carried out the plan to discredit/destroy the president, I doubt they thought it up.Or maybe they did, because it's certainly a lousy one and one which is inly going to make them look terrible.

If Valerie really was a covert CIA operative, no wonder American intelligence has been so horrible and left us wide open for 9/11.

88 posted on 07/12/2005 1:00:22 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Smedley
What enemy did Rove help exactly?

Maybe one unintended consequence of this is that the libs will finally admit Saddam was an enemy of the US--after all, Wilson was looking into his activities, and the "leak" led to that.

Tell us, libs--how can it be treason if we aren't fighting a war, and Bush invented the threat from Saddam?

89 posted on 07/12/2005 1:18:35 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed comtempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: Howlin
So the story is, a Gore supporter in the CIA casually suggested another Gore supporter go to Niger on the eve of war, and he reported false information back to the administration that defeated Gore--false information about the nation we were about to go to war with.

Sounds more serious than "someone spoke to a reporter to correct errors in a national security story and he repeated common knowledge about someone who everyone in DC knew about already."

90 posted on 07/12/2005 1:28:34 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed comtempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: Howlin; All

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=545623247

At 4:46 a.m. ET, C-SPAN will be replaying the 31 minute White House Daily Briefing from yesterday. Listening to it on the radio it sounded as if David Gregory was going to have a heart attack.


91 posted on 07/12/2005 1:35:08 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Howlin

Thanks for that great post. Interesting take by the writer, even if he does come off as a pandering, pompous know-it-all.


92 posted on 07/12/2005 1:37:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: leadpenny

I don't know about David Gregory because I don't remember hearing him but Terry Moran (ABC)was having a hissy fit. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. He was so disrespectful it was sickening. He acted as if he was a child talking back to his parents.


93 posted on 07/12/2005 1:38:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I just assumed it was Gregory. On now. Just started.


94 posted on 07/12/2005 1:48:52 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Howlin

bump


95 posted on 07/12/2005 1:50:57 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: kcvl
If that's what passes for tradecraft in Langley, we're in more trouble than any of us have realized.

Exactly! And if there's really somebody there who thinks that there's any difference in the level of suspicion the other side would have between that accorded to an agency employee and that accorded to the Ambassador's wife, they're in BIG trouble. "Hey, Abdul, I saw Farhad talking to the Ambassador's wife, but it's not like that's any security risk or anything. I mean, I'm sure she wouldn't tell the American government anything."

Sheesh! How could anybody think the connection between the Ambassador's wife and the U.S. Government would be secret? It has to be somebody who thinks military attaches are really attaches. It's the "Get Smart" school of spycraft.

96 posted on 07/12/2005 1:58:17 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Howlin

bookmark


97 posted on 07/12/2005 2:10:01 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: kcvl

Gregory seemed to get exercised the most but there was enough frustration to go around.

Two things are apparent to me: 1) No one has all the facts yet and 2) If Rove was 'getable,' the left side of the media would have already gotten him.


98 posted on 07/12/2005 2:20:04 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: nopardons
sadim is either a troll, or just someone who shouldn't be on FR. Read his personal page, he's an Aussie, a journalist ( or so he claims ) and get this...A PROUD MODERATE.

A lot of FAR LEFT LIBERALS believe that they are moderates.

It is a um... delusion of theirs that the center has shifted so far to the left that socialists are the new middle.

99 posted on 07/12/2005 3:22:31 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Howlin

Bump


100 posted on 07/12/2005 3:28:02 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Be a Good Mullah Now ...)
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