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To: InspiredPath1
So, Rove talks to a reporter and never mentions her name.

"Joe Wilson's wife works for the CIA". Sounds to me like Rove clearly identified her as working for the CIA. I don't understand the difference between that and saying her name. Sounds rather like Clintonian parsing to me.

110 posted on 07/11/2005 6:22:18 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

that one is easy.. you would have to know the name of wilson's wife..

you are not revealing anyone's name if you are saying so and so's spouse sent them on the mission.


114 posted on 07/11/2005 6:25:22 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Per the NYT’s Kristof, the CIA brought Plame and others back to Washington for safety reasons out of concern that Aldrich Aimes had disclosed their identities to the Russian’s before his arrest in 1994.
122 posted on 07/11/2005 6:30:27 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Sounds to me like Rove clearly identified her as working for the CIA
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128 posted on 07/11/2005 6:33:48 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

This is so ridiculous! Where have you been??? There was NO CRIME committed even if Rove did mention her name, because she was NOT a covert agent and hadn't been for at least 4 or 5 years. She was more than happy to tell everyone that she worked for the CIA, it was common knowledge.

Rove is not the target of the grand jury investigation and Miller would never go to jail to protect him. Miller was already in trouble for refusing to reveal a source inside the CIA. It is very possible that this is the same source or related to that source.


130 posted on 07/11/2005 6:33:57 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Doesn't matter, read 118.


135 posted on 07/11/2005 6:37:33 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
"Joe Wilson's wife works for the CIA". Sounds to me like Rove clearly identified her as working for the CIA. I don't understand the difference between that and saying her name. Sounds rather like Clintonian parsing to me.

And playing the devils advocate, he did have a motive.

190 posted on 07/11/2005 7:16:43 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Perhaps you should actually read that law on what is 'covert' and what characterizes a leak of that info...
From John at Powerlineblog just shortly after noon on Sunday.
http://foi.missouri.edu/bushinfopolicies/protection.html

http://www.powerlineblog.com/

Newsweek notes that "[n]othing in the Cooper e-mail suggests that Rove used Plame's name or knew she was a covert operative."

It is highly unlikely that Rove (or any other as-yet-unidentified source) violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. That statute applies when:

1) a person having access to classified information that identifies a "covert agent" discloses the agent's identity to a person not authorized to receive the information, where the person making the disclosure knows that "the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States";

2) same thing, only the person making the disclosure "learns the identity of a covert agent" through his access to classified information; or

3) a person discloses the identity of a covert agent "in the course of a pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United States."

First of all, it is not clear that Valerie Plame was a "covert agent." Here is the definition of "covert agent":

(4) The term “covert agent” means—
(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency—

(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information, and

(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States; or

(B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, and—

(i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency, or

(ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; or

(C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information and who is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency.


So whether Plame was a covert agent appears to turn on whether shse served outside the United States during the five years preceding her identification. I haven't seen any definitive answer to this question




203 posted on 07/11/2005 7:32:32 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (Trying to reason with the Hurricane season - Buffett)
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