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Vanity: Dad's conversations with Muslim shop owner about London bombing (chilling wake up call)
vanity | 9 July 2005 | NZerFromHK

Posted on 07/08/2005 7:13:25 PM PDT by NZerFromHK

My father owns a business in the CBD area here in Auckland. We have a shop selling Persian rugs next to us and the owner is Iranian himself. He is a moderate Muslim (yep, the MSM definition of it no less) and seems to be very nice to us and other nearby shops' owners. Dad had this conversation with the owner yesterday regarding the London bombing:

Dad: Did you read the papers this morning?

Owner: Yes, a big news event.

Dad: It's sad, isn't it?

Owner: Well, the British got it upon themselves. You know that Americans and British have killed many of us Muslims!

Dad: Do you really mean it? All the people died there are innocent deaths!

Owner: But they have killed many Muslims as a nation!

Dad:...

Owner: So, what do you think about it.

Dad: It's a complicated matter.

(And then he switched to another topic)

And he was fuming over dinner last night. He is a conservative like me, but because he doesn't want to get into argument due to traditional Chinese sense of politeness in conversation, he did not refute the shop owner's words in his face.

It serves as a wake up call for me. I have always imagined the moderate Muslims know the stakes, but now I have to reevaluate whether I could trust even many of the moderate Muslims in light of this conversation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: NZerFromHK

I know I'll get flamed for this, but every Muslim ought to be put into camps and everyone who has that kind of mindset should be shipped back to the Middle East.


61 posted on 07/08/2005 8:27:41 PM PDT by pctech
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To: NZerFromHK
moderate Muslim

There's no such thing as a moderate Muslim, any more than there was such a thing as a moderate Nazi.

62 posted on 07/08/2005 8:29:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: NZerFromHK

Now that you understand, do everything you can to help others open their eyes to this truth, please!


63 posted on 07/08/2005 8:31:59 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: NZerFromHK
You know that Americans and British have killed many of us Muslims!

Note THAT remark. Have you noticed, that, when the Muslims talk about themselves it is like talking about a special/superior race to the like of the "Untouchables"?

OTOH it is quite alright that those Muslim animals cut the heads off of anyone does not agree with their doctrine.

IMHO we will need to reign in on those bastards and bring them to their knees, just like we did with Japan.(apologies to Japan, they fought a good fight as soldiers...).

64 posted on 07/08/2005 8:39:34 PM PDT by danmar ("No person is so grand or wise or perfect as to be the master of another person." Karl Hess)
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To: pctech

ping me if you do and I'll put the fires out quickly.


65 posted on 07/08/2005 8:39:44 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: NZerFromHK

Moderate Muslim? Is there any such thing?


66 posted on 07/08/2005 8:40:56 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: NZerFromHK

Have we all forgotten all those school children killed in Russia?


67 posted on 07/08/2005 8:41:45 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: B4Ranch
Why thank you!

:-)

68 posted on 07/08/2005 8:42:57 PM PDT by pctech
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To: NZerFromHK

That should be no surprise. There has never been any kind of sincere sympathy or outrage at violent islamic attacks by so called "peaceful muslims."

There's only silent aquiessence at best, with who knows what is going on otherwise out of view of those that truly are shocked.

I still have no idea why anyone believes that Islam is a peaceful religion. It's an ignorance that will lead to the death of many. All it takes is a quick glance through the first ten chapters of the Koran to easily see that even the "peace loving variety" of Islam is by no means peaceful.

But hey, in accordance with modern thinking, it's not the truth that matters, it's how everyone "feels" about it that does. Too bad these feelings don't match what the Koran says. Intellectual laziness.


69 posted on 07/08/2005 8:44:07 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: NZerFromHK
Your father sounds like a very nice man. Many Muslims from the Middle East are brainwashed against us or just lack the correct information. The USA has protected more Muslims than Muslims have. Nobody, it seems, is ever thankful when we help them with anything. We saved France, we removed the Nazi's, we give tons of aid to Africa (but, they just want more), and more. What has anybody ever done for us? Now, even Canada is saying they are going to stop selling low-cost medicine to needy Americans.

People who want to back out of Iraq and concede to the demands of terrorists are nothing but big, fat cowards.

70 posted on 07/08/2005 8:49:47 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: NZerFromHK

The "moderate Muslim" like the "moderate rapist" will always say "she should have worn a longer dress".


71 posted on 07/08/2005 8:50:59 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: NZerFromHK

We all need to keep this in mind when they want to build a mosque in our town.


72 posted on 07/08/2005 8:52:46 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Fruitbat
There's only silent aquiessence at best

For one reason or another, they are scared to fight back. They are either weak or accomplices...both carry shame.

73 posted on 07/08/2005 8:52:58 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: NZerFromHK
We're going to find out, sooner or later,

If Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.


74 posted on 07/08/2005 8:53:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: NZerFromHK

Quite an eyeopener, for your father and you. Thanks for posting this.


75 posted on 07/08/2005 8:54:46 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: NZerFromHK

This is the reason why calling Islam a religion of peace is so wrong. If even the moderates believe in homicide bombings to settle a supposed slight, what are we left with to find any common ground with their culture or their religion?


76 posted on 07/08/2005 8:58:16 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
It will come down to neighbor to neighbor.....but we have the big guns....I personally think we should give a weeks warning to stop all terrorism..if they don't..take out a city...doesn't matter what country..then do another week...then another city...when we finally get them down to 5% of the population..they will quit...BTW..I just bought 1000 more rounds...
77 posted on 07/08/2005 9:05:55 PM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: pctech

"...every Muslim ought to be put into camps and everyone who has that kind of mindset should be shipped back to the Middle East."

I'm now convinced the facilities described on this link are an excellent idea.

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm


78 posted on 07/08/2005 9:07:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: etcetera

Good hypothesis. Victimhood from the Muslim psyche.


79 posted on 07/08/2005 9:09:22 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales iappears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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To: muawiyah
Besides those guys equate the Chinese with the Mongols who invaded a couple of times and began exterminating those who raised the slightest objection to anything.
Oh, the Chinese had their own Muslim problem. It's called Xinjiang. And they had their own way of handling it. His name was Wang Zhen. He was one of the movers and shakers of the Tiananmen massacre, which was child's play compared to what he did to Muslims.

Say what you will about the CCP, but they know the one way you get Muslims' attention: kill the leaders and scare the @#$% out of the rest of them.

80 posted on 07/08/2005 9:11:19 PM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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