Posted on 07/08/2005 7:13:25 PM PDT by NZerFromHK
My father owns a business in the CBD area here in Auckland. We have a shop selling Persian rugs next to us and the owner is Iranian himself. He is a moderate Muslim (yep, the MSM definition of it no less) and seems to be very nice to us and other nearby shops' owners. Dad had this conversation with the owner yesterday regarding the London bombing:
Dad: Did you read the papers this morning?
Owner: Yes, a big news event.
Dad: It's sad, isn't it?
Owner: Well, the British got it upon themselves. You know that Americans and British have killed many of us Muslims!
Dad: Do you really mean it? All the people died there are innocent deaths!
Owner: But they have killed many Muslims as a nation!
Dad:...
Owner: So, what do you think about it.
Dad: It's a complicated matter.
(And then he switched to another topic)
And he was fuming over dinner last night. He is a conservative like me, but because he doesn't want to get into argument due to traditional Chinese sense of politeness in conversation, he did not refute the shop owner's words in his face.
It serves as a wake up call for me. I have always imagined the moderate Muslims know the stakes, but now I have to reevaluate whether I could trust even many of the moderate Muslims in light of this conversation.
I know I'll get flamed for this, but every Muslim ought to be put into camps and everyone who has that kind of mindset should be shipped back to the Middle East.
There's no such thing as a moderate Muslim, any more than there was such a thing as a moderate Nazi.
Now that you understand, do everything you can to help others open their eyes to this truth, please!
Note THAT remark. Have you noticed, that, when the Muslims talk about themselves it is like talking about a special/superior race to the like of the "Untouchables"?
OTOH it is quite alright that those Muslim animals cut the heads off of anyone does not agree with their doctrine.
IMHO we will need to reign in on those bastards and bring them to their knees, just like we did with Japan.(apologies to Japan, they fought a good fight as soldiers...).
ping me if you do and I'll put the fires out quickly.
Moderate Muslim? Is there any such thing?
Have we all forgotten all those school children killed in Russia?
:-)
That should be no surprise. There has never been any kind of sincere sympathy or outrage at violent islamic attacks by so called "peaceful muslims."
There's only silent aquiessence at best, with who knows what is going on otherwise out of view of those that truly are shocked.
I still have no idea why anyone believes that Islam is a peaceful religion. It's an ignorance that will lead to the death of many. All it takes is a quick glance through the first ten chapters of the Koran to easily see that even the "peace loving variety" of Islam is by no means peaceful.
But hey, in accordance with modern thinking, it's not the truth that matters, it's how everyone "feels" about it that does. Too bad these feelings don't match what the Koran says. Intellectual laziness.
People who want to back out of Iraq and concede to the demands of terrorists are nothing but big, fat cowards.
The "moderate Muslim" like the "moderate rapist" will always say "she should have worn a longer dress".
We all need to keep this in mind when they want to build a mosque in our town.
For one reason or another, they are scared to fight back. They are either weak or accomplices...both carry shame.
If Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.
Quite an eyeopener, for your father and you. Thanks for posting this.
This is the reason why calling Islam a religion of peace is so wrong. If even the moderates believe in homicide bombings to settle a supposed slight, what are we left with to find any common ground with their culture or their religion?
"...every Muslim ought to be put into camps and everyone who has that kind of mindset should be shipped back to the Middle East."
I'm now convinced the facilities described on this link are an excellent idea.
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm
Good hypothesis. Victimhood from the Muslim psyche.
Besides those guys equate the Chinese with the Mongols who invaded a couple of times and began exterminating those who raised the slightest objection to anything.Oh, the Chinese had their own Muslim problem. It's called Xinjiang. And they had their own way of handling it. His name was Wang Zhen. He was one of the movers and shakers of the Tiananmen massacre, which was child's play compared to what he did to Muslims.
Say what you will about the CCP, but they know the one way you get Muslims' attention: kill the leaders and scare the @#$% out of the rest of them.
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