Posted on 07/08/2005 12:59:23 PM PDT by phoenix_004
"'Muslims should be marching in protest' or 'rooting out the terrorists' but they can never tell me where they marched when Christian terrorists were attacking London or what they did to root them out."
You're lack of reasoning makes you look like a complete idiot. I'll help you.
#1 - The "Christian" terrorism was definately terrorism. But, the Protestant Church didn't preach that blowing up women and children was the right thing to do. The Bible doesn't outline terrorism.
#2 - The focus is more along the lines of a "traditional" war. I am not itimate with the details of the Protestant/Catholic problems in Ireland, but the Irish don't blow up Germans to get their point across.
#3 - Whatever the problems in Ireland, world domination with a common theocracy is not their goal. That is the goal of islam, which makes it a threat to everyone who is not islamic.
Either you are islamic, or your a troll, which makes you an idiot. Either way, we are at war with islam, so this makes you my enemy.
Have you ever read the Koran?
In it you will see a clarion call for Muslims to destroy the infidels. It's not a vague reference, either. It's clearly stated.
Most Muslims don't know Arabic--they read translations. In England, the sign would have to be in English and Urdu. Like our "immigrants" from south of the border, many Pakistanis and Bangladeshis who live in England don't bother to learn the language.
"I am sure there actually are many Muslim immigrants who do think of themselves as Brits first and who are not sympathetic to the terrorists."
I wouldn't be so sure if I were you.
That is, except for the possibility of being blown up by suicide bombs... I'm sure he meant to add that. /sarc
American Christians, united, condemned these abuses and forced a change. Christians dedicated themselves to hunting down these criminals, and the people were arrested and convicted.
I expect nothing less from the Islamic world. Police your own trash, or we will do it for you!
"I think you'll find that there is no such thing as a "Christian terrorist", not in the same sense as there are Muslim terrorists. The IRA terrorists were not looking to impose a religious state upon the UK."
When people are blowing up things in your capital city, I'm not sure that whatever distinction you are trying to make here has any practical value.
Strawman arguement. If you know ANYTHING about the IRA you know they are Socialists first who comit their attacks for POLITICAL, not religious purposes. When was the last time you heard of an IRA operative shouting the Pope's name during his attack? The Islamo-terrorists do what they do IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION whereas the IRA do them in the name of their politics. And if you REALLY want to get down to brass tacks, when was the last time a Muslim terrorist phoned in a warning telling people to get out 30 minutes before their bombs went off?
"there is no such thing as a "Christian terrorist"
When that evangelical Christian shot up the abortion clinic in Pensacola, Fl., was that not an act of terrorism in the name of Christianity?
Yeah - let's beat up someone innocent because she is the same as the group that did it. Feel the patriotism!
This reminds me of when there's a "gun crime" and the gun grabbers want to punish me.
Which Christian terrorists are you talking about?
IIRC the IRA always used to call the police and tell them where the bombs were before they went off, so that people would not be killed by them. Makes a big difference to the people who weren't killed, I'd wager.
For years they (Arab Street and the MSM) have been asking: Why do they (West, civilized world) hate us?
Time for a new question: Why do we (West, civilized world) hate them?
[The pix from the London bombing, the pix from 9-11, the pix from the Russian school, the pix from the Bali bombing, the pix from the Madrid bombing, etc, etc, provide a visual clue to the answer.]
"Either you are islamic, or your a troll, which makes you an idiot. Either way, we are at war with islam, so this makes you my enemy."
I'm a London-born Brit. Define yourself as my enemy if you wish. At the moment, the only enemy I have is the Islamist scum who attacked my home city yesterday, so I don't much like the company you're keeping.
Terrorism targets the innocent. Abortionists are hardly innocent, they end human lives as a career. A crime, yes, but no, not terrorism.
I sympathize with Mr. Bari. I sent him some advice at info@eastlondonmosque.org.uk, under a title similar to "How To Deflect Harassment Regarding the Recent Bombings":
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Expressions of sympathy are nice, but I would suggest that you issue the following statement:
It is the religous duty of all Moslems to assist the authorities, in any way possible, in the apprehension and prosecution of the perpetrators of the London bombings and any other terrorist act.
A sign up in front of the mosque, so that passers-by and the media could see it would likely be quite effective. I would recommend that you also say this in English and Arabic in the Friday sermons.
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Let's see if my advice gets passed on and acted on.
The death toll is really mounting in the Muslim community.
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