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NATO To Hold Karadzic's Son Indefinitely
Radio Free Europe ^ | July 8, 2005 | RFE Staff

Posted on 07/08/2005 11:53:33 AM PDT by Jomini

NATO says it will keep the son of former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic in custody until he reveals information that may lead to the capture of his father.

NATO spokesman in Sarajevo Derek Chappell told the dpa news agency that Aleksandar Karadzic will be kept in detention as long as it takes to get information NATO believes he has.

NATO military units picked Karadzic up Thursday at his home in Pale, near Sarajevo.

The UN war crimes tribunal in the Hague has indicted the elder Karadzic on charges of genocide and war crimes.

There is no information on what charges, if any, have been made against his son.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; hostagetaking; karadzic; mladic; srebrenica
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To: Alter Kaker
If the jack boots fit.

American soldiers are being turned into Hessians. I pity them and mourn their loss of innocence in the service of the NATO Antichrist One World Order like force. To hold a civilian without charge as a hostage by a military force is a crime against the Geneva convention. What is being done to this man it is an unlawful order and soldiers should refuse to carry it out.

This is the forum of resistance to 'jack booted thugs' in the case of Ruby Ridge, Waco and in the case of little Elian Gonzalez in Florida.

FreeRepublic is not the 'blind obedience to the state' forum.

PS: If I had my way I would jack boot the lot of you Muslim lovers out of America. But it is still a free country and since I don't support Muslims like NATO does I and my knid may end up in reeducation camps where we are held without trial or charge as a human hostage indefinitely. God bless the Serbs and may the regain all their land from the Muslims again.

41 posted on 07/11/2005 1:49:14 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
American soldiers are being turned into Hessians.

Keep attacking the US military, friend, see how far that gets you.

If I had my way I would jack boot the lot of you Muslim lovers out of America.

I'm not in America. It does seem a bit sad that I love your country more than you and your other American leftists do.

God bless the Serbs and may the regain all their land from the Muslims again.

And again you promote civilian genocide in the name of Balkan tribalism.

Ne postoyi veche sranye nego ti.

42 posted on 07/11/2005 1:58:40 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Destro

I should add for the benefit of Freepers unfamiliar with the Balkans that Destro's support for terrorism and hatred of American troops in no way reflects the views of the overwhelming majority of Serbians and supporters of Serbia. Serbia is part of new Europe, a Western-looking friend of the United States and an emerging democracy. The genocidal dead-enders, which include this poster, have been out of power for years, and have no chance of reclaiming power, thank God.


43 posted on 07/11/2005 2:02:36 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
Serbia is part of new Europe

I hope to Jesus that is not so. Western EU Europe is the land of the Antichrist. It will convert to Islam and or rot to death.

America OUT of NATO NOW!!!! Let the EU die.

44 posted on 07/11/2005 2:09:02 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Alter Kaker
And the fact is, you're accusing the United States, its military, and its elected leaders of war crimes, a tactic generally favored only by Chomskyites and their slope-browed ilk in Europe and the Arab Street.

Actually, that wasn't me; I haven't made a single accusation against him on this thread. But the accusation that was made was against Clinton himself, not "the United States" and "its military". (speaking of leftist tactics...)

It's an especially pathetic tactic considering that at #37, you protested to another poster that you weren't condemning Serbs as a whole, just particular Serbs. Yet when someone accuses one particularly slimy "American" of war crimes, you irritably insist that he's smearing America itself. You've become quite a joke in just a few short posts.

45 posted on 07/11/2005 2:22:36 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: mark502inf
Way wrong. Even the not-friendly-to-America Human Rights Watch could only come up with a figure of 500 civilian deaths;

Testimony from the human rights left? They will skew their reports so as not to embarrass the European left and the Clinton crowd. Thanks to Clinton, the Kosovo Albanians are burning Christian churches within Kosovo, driving out the minority Serb Christian population, forming criminal gangs operating across Europe, and aiding Al Qaeda. But why be surprised. Clinton used Wesley Clark to murder about 990 men, women, and children in Waco, Texas. He used WWII tactics, fire bombing. He is a real nice guy.

Holding hostage indefinitely the son of a Serb they are seeking must warm your heart.

46 posted on 07/11/2005 3:09:19 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Testimony from the human rights left?

Read the whole post. The Serbian government's official tally was 495. Bottom line, you were wrong. And not just wrong, but eager to wrongly impugn the ethics and professionalism of the American military.

Thanks to Clinton

Uh, maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events, but Bush has been President for the last four+ years. And our Balkans policy has not changed.

Clinton used Wesley Clark to murder about 990 men, women, and children in Waco, Texas.

Wow, you really know your stuff on the Balkans!

47 posted on 07/11/2005 3:39:34 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Holding hostage indefinitely the son of a Serb they are seeking must warm your heart.

Are you channeling Yoda?

48 posted on 07/11/2005 3:40:25 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Alter Kaker
I'm not in America. It does seem a bit sad that I love your country more than you [Destro] and your other American leftists do.

Alter Kaker, thanks for your words about America. And rest assured that most Americans support Israel just as much.

As for Destro & his fellow-travellers, they are part of a small group of FReepers who seemed to have grouped around an extremist Serbo-Slavo-Ortho tribalism which rejects the standards of morality in favor of identifying right & wrong based on ethno-religious identity. Unfortunately, their bigotry has come to represent Serbia on this forum.

49 posted on 07/11/2005 3:51:39 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
As for Destro & his fellow-travellers, they are part of a small group of FReepers who seemed to have grouped around an extremist Serbo-Slavo-Ortho tribalism [blah, blah, blah]

You guys are in the minority around here, and you know it. If an FR poll were to be conducted tomorrow on whether our intervention in the Balkans was a good thing that was conducted properly, you'd lose big time.

Present whatever facts or arguments you want, but this kind of I'm-in-the-conservative-mainstream game you're playing strongly indicates that your argument's bark is way bigger than its bite.

50 posted on 07/11/2005 5:00:14 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
NATO says it will keep the son of former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic in custody until he reveals information that may lead to the capture of his father. [...] There is no information on what charges, if any, have been made against his son.

No comments are needed.

51 posted on 07/11/2005 7:13:22 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Alter Kaker
There are about seven thousand pieces of evidence sitting in Srebrenica.

But so well hidden by the evil Serbs that they cannot be found.

52 posted on 07/11/2005 7:14:47 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: Alter Kaker
As an Israeli, I know first hand the evil of those who would deny a holocaust. Are you saying that Srebrenica massacre and Holocaust were equally real?
53 posted on 07/11/2005 7:16:59 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: inquest
whether our intervention in the Balkans was a good thing that was conducted properly,

That'd be a good debate; there are good arguments on both sides. I was against the intervention in Kosovo, but can see the merits of each side's arguments. Was the ethnic cleansing & refugee flow a danger to regional stability? Was the danger such that it was worth using military force to resolve? Was the humanitarian situation so severe that using force was warranted? Could the Rambouillet Accord wording been crafted to gain agreement without using force? Was Albright in over her head and was the post-Dayton Holbrook seized with hubris? Does the NATO Charter "original intent" provide for out of area ops? Does it or should it matter that the UNSC did not vote on the intervention? Did Clinton taking ground forces off the table up-front prolong the war and result in more damage both in Kosovo and Serbia proper? Those are all issues that can be debated.

Unfortunately, the Kosovo issue--and the Bosnia & Croat situations as well--are much more often argued on the basis of misbegotten Serb nationalism than on the facts or genuinely debztable issues. These goofy ideas that the Serbs didn't commit the massacre at Srebrenica or that they didn't ethnically cleanse Albanians out of Kosovo or that they were the victims in each of the four wars they fought or that their Muslim enemies were controlled by al Qaeda and their Christian enemies are Nazis are at best the misimpressions left by the Milosevic government controlled media propaganda machine and at worst cynical & deliberate lies.

As to the "conservative main stream", I think I'm right in it when it comes to the Balkans. I agree with what the President says about Srebrenica here and I agree with what every Republican Senator and every voting Republican member of the House except one said here about Srebrenica; so I'm swimming in the stream with such as Tancredo, Hoekstra, Cris Smith, Curt Weldon, a couple hundred other Republican legislators and the President of the United States. I'm pretty comfortable in that water.

54 posted on 07/11/2005 7:36:25 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: inquest

" If an FR poll were to be conducted tomorrow on whether our intervention in the Balkans was a good thing that was conducted properly, you'd lose big time. "

Your right about that.


55 posted on 07/11/2005 7:44:46 PM PDT by warsaw44 (To believe the writings of Islam, is to believe God is a Misogynist)
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To: A. Pole
Are you saying that Srebrenica massacre and Holocaust were equally real?

Uh, yeah. Since I'm not sure what "equally real" means, I'll interpret that to mean "really no kidding real". And the Holocaust and Srebrenica are both really no kidding real. That's what that fuss was today in Bosnia--the 50,000 people at the memorial service, the coffins, the delegation from President Bush, the President of Serbia who admitted that the Srebrenica massacre was really no kidding real. The ceremony where Prime Minister Blair's message was read equating the Bosnian victims at Srebrenica to the London terror attack victims; where Paul Wolfowitz decried the worst "act of genocide" since WWI.

56 posted on 07/11/2005 8:12:46 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
These goofy ideas that the Serbs didn't commit the massacre at Srebrenica or that they didn't ethnically cleanse Albanians out of Kosovo

I'm not familiar with the assertion that they didn't commit the massacre at Srebrenica. The claim I've heard (which I haven't had time to evaluate on my own) is that Srebrenica was being used as a staging point for Muslim attacks on Serbs, despite its status as a UN "safe haven", and the Serbs decided they'd had enough. If any of that is true, it still wouldn't excuse the Serbs for killing all those men and youngsters, but it would put things in a different perspective.

As for Kosovo, how many Albanians had been killed before our intervention? Was it 2,000 out of a prewar population of 1.8 million, correct? And that includes guerilla fighters, quite possibly including fighting among rival gangs. So what constitutes "ethnic cleansing" in this regard?

57 posted on 07/11/2005 8:23:48 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: mark502inf
Paul Wolfowitz decried the worst "act of genocide" since WWI.

Hmm.

58 posted on 07/11/2005 8:24:43 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: A. Pole
Are you saying that Srebrenica massacre and Holocaust were equally real?

Equally real? Yes. Equal in magnitude? Of course not. There is a difference between six million and seven thousand, but that doesn't mean seven thousand cold-blooded murders aren't a horrific crime.

59 posted on 07/11/2005 8:30:17 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: A. Pole

What? Charges are needed? Not in our New World Order.


60 posted on 07/11/2005 8:37:09 PM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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