Posted on 07/08/2005 8:13:38 AM PDT by KeyesPlease
Nearly one-third of all births in New Jersey in 2002 were to immigrant mothers, the most ever, according to a new study that examines how the massive influx of immigrants is transforming communities and posing new challenges for the nation's education and health care systems.
"We've never been here before," said Steve Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank that conducted the study. "We're headed into uncharted territory in terms of the size of the second generation."
In New Jersey, immigrants make up 18 percent of the total population and accounted for 31.9 percent of all births in 2002, the study found. By comparison, just 9.6 percent of babies were born to foreign-born mothers in 1970.
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Door number two works for me.
Ever hear of sarcasm?
Yes. The poster didn't answer. I hope he/she understands that as well as you do.
There have always been, and always will be, people or groups of people who will violate the rights of others if allowed to do so. It is the job of government to defend those rights. It is the only legitimate reason for government to exist in a free society. It is past time to hold them to their legitimate obligation and deny them the opportunity to do anything else.
That is the problem. And that, should be the "beef".
These births should make up for all the legal babies murdered by their mothers in New Jersey. Forty million American babies slughtered since roe v. Wade in 1973.
"Which law are you talking about. Federal law prohibits even legal immigrants from receiving any type welfare until they've been here for five years except WIC. You know why WIC is the exception? Because the children are American citizens, just as much as you and me."
Free school, free health care, the right to sue and use the services of a civil court and win judgments, all level of government service (police, fire, etc.) to which most do not contribute via payroll and/or property taxation, free court appointed attorneys and translators, workers' compensation awards (which includes temporary wage benefits, 100% covered medical expenses and a cash award for permenant injury)- to name a few.
"These children are the future of America. They are helping to replace some of the forty million Americans who have been aborted since Roe V. Wade. They will be funding your Social Security, fighting your wars to keep you free, and driving the economic engine that will provide jobs for your children and grandchildren."
Most do not pay taxes.
"Do you support the U.S. Constitution? All people born in America are American citizens and enjoy the same right and privileges as all other citizens."
Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment states, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF. Read the section entitled "Fourteenth Amendment Debate: http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/birthrightcitizenship.htm
"Your opposition to American children being allowed to attend public schools just because their parents are immigrants is abhorrent to everything conservatives and patriotic Americans stand for."
American children? See above.
For you to want to deny these American children an education, basic health care, minimum nutrition and the same safety nets that your children have is unconscionable.
BooHoo. You pay for it.
"Are you opposed to all immigrants, all Hispanic immigrants, all illegal immigrants, or only illegal Hispanic immigrants?"
It is so predictable that in any immigration thread there will always be a race baiter.
Yes...aside from the illegal immigration policy, I think that our current immigration policy (particularly the 1965 Immigration Act as amended and supplmented) is extremely bad policy. The '65 Act was passed (and dramatically altered the immigration policy this nation had very successfully been following since the 1920's) amidst lies, naive, misguided predictions of its effects and that destructive leftist Great Society, multicultural ideology of the 1960's.
So Teddy Kennedy assured Americans that, even if we passed the '65 Act, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually." Former Hawaii Senator Daniel Inouye, claimed that "the total number of potential immigrants would not be changed very much." Of course, today, well over a million legal immigrants do flood our cities every year...about 5 times the number of immigrants enter America every year as did in 1964 (and the number grows every year).
Senator Robert Kennedy predicted a total of 5,000 immigrants from India; his successor as US Attorney General, Nicholas Katzenbach, predicted 8,000. Of course, we now have over 1000x the number of Indian immigrants that Kennedy (deceptively or foolishly) predicted. Senator Hiram Fong, of Hawaii, stated that Asians"will never reach 1 percent of the population." Of course, the number of Asians far exceeds that number.
Interesting when one looks at the Congressional debates around the '65 Immigration Act...it appears that, at least in the context of debating immigration policy, people were able to talk about demographics and cultural considerations without being called a racist...
Time to halt all immigration for a while and then, roll back the 1960's multicultural experiments that have done so much damage to this country and return to a sensible level of immigration based on the national origins standards we used for the first half of this century.
I have four children, three born in NJ. Ten years ago, nearly every family with children that I knew, had only one or two, and they generally old enough to be done.
Now three is probably the most common family size where we live, and four is not "wow" any more.
Of course, all the women who don't have children, don't live in this exurban family town. And I bet that something like a quarter of the girls I went to school with twenty-five years ago don't have children.
Lots of Indian and Chinese immigrants in our town. My daughter hangs out with the Asians, academic achievers. A fair number of the Chinese are Christians.
Next town over has a lot of Hispanic immigrants. Expensive enough that it requires sacrifice and hard work to live in the poorer sections. They don't seem to be assimilating as much as the Asians. When I've gone to Spanish Mass, it is touching to see the back section of the church filled with young men, alone, who still care enough about their faith to go to Mass.
Saw a Muslim woman yesterday, an American convert, with her seven children in tow, looked like she'd married a Pakistani.
Sure do wish Americans would have their own babies, stop Muslim immigration, and limit the rest.
Mrs VS
I live in Princeton Junction. Indians are about 20% of our town. They are also a major reason our high schools are tops in the state.
"The United States currently grants automatic U.S. citizenship to almost all children born in the United States, regardless of whether the parents are U.S. citizens, legal residents, temporary visitors, or illegal aliens ..."
That's the law. Your strange spin of the universally accepted meaning of our Constitution is typical of the Antis.
These children are Americans. Anyone who wants American children to grow up uneducated is neither conservative nor patriotic.
That's not true -- it is a knock to us all.
"I read your link. The first sentence states:"
I guess that is where you stopped.
To some people on FreeRepublic there is no difference.
I suspect that many of the anti-illegals are just hiding behind the word "illegal" to mask their opposition to all imigrants; others use it simply as a vehicle to criticize President Bush.
Pat tried to warn y'all.
All the illegals get free health care plus the little illegals get free education at taxpayers expense.
Actually, I believe the Constitution stipulates that children born to parents bearing allegiance to a foreign flag do not automatically become citizens.
1. If the parents are here illegally, then deport them and their children; through genetic testing, ban them and any future generations of ever becoming citizens. That should reduce the illegal immigration problem.
2. No benefits for breaking the law. If you are here illegally, you are not eligible for schooling, non-emergency medical treatment, in-state tuition, etc. Anyone found to be here illegally while trying to defraud American citizens by participating in these propgrams should be deported and banned from future citizenship (at least until restitution is made for services already received).
3. Companies and individuals that hire illegal immigrants should be fined, with the revenues used to support stiffer border patrols and deportation activities.
IMHO...
They are Americans. Why should they not be represented by our elected officials just as you are? Would you prefer to lose elections just for the pleasure of insulting them?
Um, you seem to be confusing 'legal' with 'constitutional'.
From what I can see from most of the comments on this thread, people are not anti-immigrant, they are anti-criminals and anti-government in the case where the government (at any level) does not enforce the laws created by elected representatives in a fair manner.
YMMV...
In other words, you owe us money, gringo. So hand it over.
Hispanic immigration = extortion
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