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The Schiavo Autopsy Results: Terri Dailies July 6
Accuracy in Media-Media Monitor ^
| July 6, 2005
| Cliff Kincaid
Posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
Several bloggers have drawn attention to a strange lead in a Washington Post story about the Terri Schiavo autopsy results. The June 16 Post story by David Brown said that "Terri Schiavo died of the effects of a profound and prolonged lack of oxygen to her brain on a day in 1990, but what caused that event isn't known and may never be, the physician who performed her autopsy said
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KEYWORDS: accuracy; anncoulterscotus; autopsy; dumbbears; herofloriduhvoter; hino; media; msmbias; murderer; notnews; rushforfloriduhvoter; schiavo; schiavowifeabuser; schindler; terri; terridailythread; terrischiavo; unbalancedandanidiot; unbalancedleft; wifekiller
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To: TheSpottedOwl; T'wit
Nutri system is not an extra fast weight loss diet. 60 lbs in a year is not that fast. 5 lbs a month. Not something I would expect a eating disorder person to do.
To: floriduh voter
You have been wrong about every detail of this case to date.
You just manage to look more and more whacked out by an event that has ended despite all the slander, lies and disinformation that Randall Terry and people like you have tried to disseminate. You might have found allies among more constitutional conservatives had you not used such low life tactics to spread the lies.
And once the lies and slander were exposed to the light, the backlash against the entire right became apparent to everyone but fanatic terricultists who even in the face of irrefutable truth and facts, continue to spew lies as if everyone in the world ignore the facts as they have. There is no more to gain from the cynical exploitation of the case of a poor brain dead middle aged women being force fed against her will as expressed to her husband. Those still trying to make a buck off this tragic tale will not be stopped by facts.
Governor to close Schiavo inquiry
The investigating state attorney tells Bush he found Michael Schiavo did not cause his wife's collapse.
DAVID KARP and CHRIS TISCH
Published July 8, 2005
St. Pete Times
LARGO - In what could be a final chapter in the legal saga of Terri Schiavo, Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney Bernie McCabe says he could find no evidence that Michael Schiavo caused his wife's collapse 15 years ago.
In a June 30 letter to Gov. Jeb Bush, McCabe suggested ending the state's inquiry into the case.
Bush responded Thursday in a two-sentence letter to McCabe: "Based on your conclusions, I will follow your recommendation that the inquiry by the state be closed."
Bush asked McCabe last month to investigate Schiavo's collapse on the morning of Feb. 25, 1990. He cited questions left unanswered by an autopsy and inconsistent statements from Michael Schiavo about the time he found his wife on the floor of their apartment.
McCabe appointed two of his most seasoned prosecutors to review the evidence. They found nothing to indicate Michael Schiavo hurt his wife.
"I hope this will be the final page in a very, very sad chapter for Florida government," said George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney.
The report, though, will not end the controversy over Schiavo's collapse and the court order to remove her feeding tube, causing her death in March.
David Gibbs III, an attorney for Schiavo's parents, questioned how prosecutors were able to take a new look at the case after only 10 days of work.
"It seems surprisingly quick to us," Gibbs said.
Prosecutors did not speak to Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, during that time. Gibbs said he didn't think that was what Bush expected when he asked for a "fresh look" into the case.
"We were probably expecting a more elaborate investigation into some of these questions," Gibbs said.
Although the autopsy could not determine what caused Schiavo's collapse, McCabe said the "most likely hypothesis" was an eating disorder.
As for Michael Schiavo's varying recollection about when he found his wife on the floor, prosecutors found no proof he delayed his call to 911. Though his recollection of the time he found his wife that morning has varied by up to 70 minutes, the Schindlers' memory of that morning also has been unclear.
Several local lawyers predicted McCabe's inquiry would find no evidence that Michael Schiavo hurt his wife.
But McCabe said the governor's request for an inquiry was appropriate.
"I certainly think, in the view of the autopsy and everything, it was not inappropriate to ask those questions," McCabe said. "I can see where that would be viewed as a legitimate inquiry."
McCabe was careful not to call it an investigation, instead labeling it a review or an inquiry.
"When the governor of the state asks you to do something, I suppose it's polite to respond," Felos said. "If there is no statutory requirement for him to do it, then I believe that the state attorney was doing this in the spirit comity and politeness."
McCabe assigned attorneys Doug Crow and Bob Lewis to the inquiry. The two attorneys have more than 50 years combined experience as prosecutors.
"It didn't cost taxpayers anything," McCabe said. "I didn't hire any new people. They were paid their same salary. And I don't think it affected anything we do."
McCabe, for his part, took an apparent jab at people and politicians who weighed in on the Schiavo case. In his letter to Bush, he wrote that that "some pundits ... and even some government institutions" reached conclusions about the case based on misinformation.
McCabe said Crow and Lewis made the inquiry a priority. They reviewed statements and evidence that have been presented in court for years but found no "new information" in the case.
"While some questions may remain following the autopsy, the likelihood of finding evidence that criminal acts were responsible for her collapse is not one of them," the prosecutors wrote.
942
posted on
07/08/2005 5:08:45 PM PDT
by
KDD
(http://www.gardenofsong.com/midi/popgoes.mid)
To: floriduh voter
It was in 2005.
The more I think about it, I think it was about Grandma Mae, another FORCED euthanasia attempt.
Here's the background:
In her living will, Mae Magouirk stated that fluids and nourishment were to be withheld only if she were either comatose or "vegetative," and she is neither. Nor is she terminally ill, which is generally a requirement for admission to a hospice. snippet from: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43688
Granddaughter denies
feeding tube to grandma
81-year-old not terminally ill,
comatose, nor in vegetative state
Posted: April 7, 2005
By Sarah Foster
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
In a situation recalling the recent death of Terri Schiavo in Florida, an 81-year-old widow, denied nourishment and fluids for nearly two weeks, is clinging to life in a hospice in LaGrange, Ga., while her immediate family fights desperately to save her life before she dies of starvation and dehydration.
Mae Magouirk was not terminally ill, comatose nor in a "vegetative state," when Hospice-LaGrange accepted her as a patient about two weeks ago upon the request of her granddaughter, Beth Gaddy, 36, an elementary school teacher.
943
posted on
07/08/2005 5:44:29 PM PDT
by
Sun
(Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
To: floriduh voter
P.S. Another FReeper posted it (re: Glenn Beck), and it really stuck in my mind. That's why I probably bore FReepers with repeat info, because you never know who's lurking. :)
944
posted on
07/08/2005 5:46:32 PM PDT
by
Sun
(Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
To: KDD
"...brain dead... Man oh man..how many times..how many times does it take to get you to understand that she was not brain dead?
945
posted on
07/08/2005 5:48:45 PM PDT
by
Earthdweller
(US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
To: DJ MacWoW
All this debate only gives us more info and sharpens our factsExactly.
946
posted on
07/08/2005 5:49:04 PM PDT
by
syriacus
(Libs LUV a Justice who's ready, for approval from Dick, Chuck and Teddy.)
To: pickyourpoison; floriduh voter; BykrBayb
Thank you for the information.
947
posted on
07/08/2005 5:59:29 PM PDT
by
syriacus
(Libs LUV a Justice who's ready, for approval from Dick, Chuck and Teddy.)
To: T'wit
McCabe couldn't afford to find anything. If he had found something, it would have been showing the voters that he was negligent for waiting so long. I doubt he did any investigation but if he really did one, musta been a quickie.
To: floriduh voter
Stay safe down there....I will be watching the news to see what happens. Give us updates when you can.
949
posted on
07/08/2005 6:04:34 PM PDT
by
yellowdoghunter
(Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
To: Sun
There's another guy in the UK fighting for his right to have food and fluids if he becomes incapacitated because the MD's there have been given full right to take it away from people even against their written wishes. I know that is what we are moving to here in the US.
Leslie Burke wants to live; the National Health Service has a second opinion
"Burkes lawsuit is important to the future of medical ethics; it is substantially different than the Terri Schiavo case. Schiavo was dehydrated to deatha bitter and profound injusticebecause Judge George W. Greer ruled both that Terri was in a persistent vegetative state and (based on statements she allegedly made during casual conversations some 20 years ago) that she would not want to live under such circumstances. In other words, Terri Schiavo lost her life in order to safeguard her personal autonomy, though she never made the actual decision to die."
"But Burke, who is fully competent, worries that his wishes will be ignored precisely because he wants food and water even if he becomes totally paralyzed. Receiving food and water when it is wanted certainly seems the least each of us should be able to expect. But, it turns out, whether Burke lives or dies by dehydration may not be up to him. According to National Health Service treatment guidelines, doctors, rather than patients or their families, have the final say about providing or withholding care."
950
posted on
07/08/2005 6:07:58 PM PDT
by
Earthdweller
(US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
To: billbears
Part of me that desired to have the 'right' thing done, from an emotional standpoint, would have requested the Florida legislature pass a bill explicitly for this case. Somewhere, somehow, I am sure the original Constitution covered Terri in its intent. We didn't need to pass any new laws to protect her. It is not an emotional issue with me as far as that goes. All we needed was honest people to judge her crime before they put her to death.
951
posted on
07/08/2005 6:08:55 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
("I don’t want anyone trying to feed that GIRL" Greer thundered from the bench in 2001)
To: TheSpottedOwl
Make no mistake that MS is abusive and controlling.
Carole Lieberman, M.D. a Board Certified Psychiatrist on the Clinical Faculty of UCLA, says that Michael Schiavo fits the profile of a wife abuser.
To: pickyourpoison
If he had found something, it would have been showing the voters that he was negligent for waiting so long.
Exactly. He certainly didn't investigate like Mark Furhman. Mark is impartial - nothing to loose.
To: TheSpottedOwl
Something is rotten in Denmark.
Actually, the stench is so strong and wide spread in Florida it permeates all the way to Denmark.
To: bjs1779
All we needed was honest people to judge her crime before they put her to death.
Well said!
To: Earthdweller
Thank you for that story from the UK. This is what would happen in our country with Hillarycare.
It IS already being done in our country, but is done quietly. If it becomes legal in our country, IMO, it will become far more prevalent.
956
posted on
07/08/2005 6:37:47 PM PDT
by
Sun
(Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
To: presently no screen name
Carole Lieberman, M.D. a Board Certified Psychiatrist on the Clinical Faculty of UCLA, says that Michael Schiavo fits the profile of a wife abuser. If I recollect right, Michael was under the care of a psychiatrist at the time of Terri's incident.
957
posted on
07/08/2005 6:38:05 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
("I don’t want anyone trying to feed that GIRL" Greer thundered from the bench in 2001)
To: presently no screen name
Bernie McCabe couldn't even (or didn't want to) get a conviction on the dehydration death of Lisa McPearson. This is all very irregular.
958
posted on
07/08/2005 6:45:03 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
("I don’t want anyone trying to feed that GIRL" Greer thundered from the bench in 2001)
To: bjs1779
Yes, I believe you are correct.
However, Carole Lieberman wasn't his doctor. His actions tell the story - it is not rocket science! LOL Remember when her sister was advised to keep a hammer under her pillow for protection?
There is so much evidence that was never allowed in - if this ever goes to a grand jury it will be exposed; however, we are dealing w/Florida and the powers that be. But we will never give up. Never give evil what evil wants.
To: bjs1779
dehydration death of Lisa McPearson
Yep - the powers that be - $cientology.
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