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The Schiavo Autopsy Results: Terri Dailies July 6
Accuracy in Media-Media Monitor ^ | July 6, 2005 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Several bloggers have drawn attention to a strange lead in a Washington Post story about the Terri Schiavo autopsy results. The June 16 Post story by David Brown said that "Terri Schiavo died of the effects of a profound and prolonged lack of oxygen to her brain on a day in 1990, but what caused that event isn't known and may never be, the physician who performed her autopsy said…"

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To: tbritton

Bernie McCabe is one of the things wrong with the Republican Party of FL!


721 posted on 07/07/2005 6:19:04 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: tbritton
There is no indication in the police report as to what medications--psychotropic or otherwise--..

It is in the court transcript as to what he was taking. It was psychotic.

722 posted on 07/07/2005 6:27:43 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("I don’t want anyone trying to feed that GIRL" Greer thundered from the bench in 2001)
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To: malakhi
>> Second, these sorts of things can happen suddenly, even in otherwise healthy young people

I am unable to locate a single case of a healthy young woman collapsing into cardiac arrest in the same circumstances that Terri did. (Getting up from her sleep and keeling over... ) I have asked here before with no response, but I'm still interested. If you know of even one such case, I want to see it.

The #1 cause of injury and death in young women is domestic violence. The casualties from DV (reported) are on the order of three to four million per year. But the odds of collapse due to "chemical imbalance" are zero or infinitesimal. Not an intelligent bet.

The ME effectively ruled it out the "chemical imbalance" theory anyway because the epinephrine, bolus and defibs in the resuscitation could easily account for the short-lived low potassium reading.

The chemical imbalance theory is dead. It was the only alibi Michael had, and now even the ME says it was not worth looking at.

723 posted on 07/07/2005 6:28:43 PM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: bvw

Wow, I have to admit that I'm very ignorant regarding hearsay evidence. Great post, thanks.

Yes, Scott Peterson could have gone that route, but he wasn't that crafty. I think Laci found out that he was sleeping with other women, and he panicked.

We should put all these cases in perspective. The Clinton crimes, are a good start. They will probably never be called to justice in this world, but wait until HE judges them in the next world.


724 posted on 07/07/2005 6:37:57 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (UR 0wN3D: USSC-2005)
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To: billbears

Why are you even posting on this thread? I remember you as a decent human being, and now you come out swinging for judicially approved murder?

The rule of law in this case, is a sick joke.


725 posted on 07/07/2005 6:43:22 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (UR 0wN3D: USSC-2005)
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To: tbritton
>> "It is obvious to us that there is no possibility of proving that anyone's criminal act was responsible for Mrs. Schiavo's collapse."

It is even more obvious that he won't find anything if he doesn't look.

726 posted on 07/07/2005 6:44:06 PM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: bjs1779
Where did the Framers say to kill disabled people?

What part of the Framers words can you twist to say that medical decisions were to be decided by the federal government. Decisions as such clearly fall under the heading of 'The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State'

727 posted on 07/07/2005 6:44:59 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: floriduh voter

Wow! This is so incredible that my head is spinning. I wonder if this was some of Janet Reno's doing. The smell of Rat is all over this. I think I want to barf!


728 posted on 07/07/2005 6:45:21 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I am decent. And contrary to the belief of some, I didn't want the woman to die. My only problem with any of this is the involvement of the national government in a state issue. I wish Greer would have decided differently. I really do. I would have hoped against hope that Schiavo's situation could be somehow reversed. Medical opinions aside, I'm not going to get into it as I readily admit I am not knowledgeable enough about medicine to offer an opinion.

But when people start mucking about with what's left of the Republic to forward an agenda (which looks altruistic on its face) that eventually would destroy any hopes of federalism or the separation of powers being retained, that's when I have the problem

729 posted on 07/07/2005 6:50:29 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

It's not hard to understand. Yet the post-FDR run-of-the-mill Constitutional scholars and the legislation writers can make it complex beyond all recognition.


730 posted on 07/07/2005 7:00:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: billbears
What part of the Framers words can you twist to say that medical decisions were to be decided by the federal government.

But it wasn't like that at all. In essence, the federal government dictated that Terri shall die, by court order my friend. To the very top.

731 posted on 07/07/2005 7:00:50 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("I don’t want anyone trying to feed that GIRL" Greer thundered from the bench in 2001)
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To: malakhi

Maybe Michael Schiavo looked at Terri wrong and she sort of hyperventilated in an anxiety attack that she stressed her heart which had an unknown congenital aneurysm. This happens to people all the time. However, if something was wrong, wouldn't you think there would have been a major effort to find out what caused the cardiac arrest and try to correct the problem? I do not think any such effort found anything wrong--do you?


732 posted on 07/07/2005 7:04:52 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: TheSpottedOwl

CP reminds me of the opening paragraphs of Moby Dick.


733 posted on 07/07/2005 7:05:08 PM PDT by bvw (Don't call me Ishmael.)
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To: malakhi; floriduh voter

An ACTIVIST judge is a judge who makes up his/her mind BEFORE hearing the evidence.

Clinton appointee Judge Whittemore is also an ACTIVIST judge. Whittemore told the Schindlers' attorney, Gibbs, when Gibbs presented the case that this was emotional rhetoric. Gibbs did not have a chance with the ACTIVIST judges who already made up their minds.

Oh yeah, and here's some Florida law for you:


Violations of Florida Statutes against Terri Schiavo

744.3215 Rights of persons determined incapacitated.

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0744/SEC3215.HTM&Title=-%3E2003-%3ECh0744-%3ESection%203215

(1) A person who has been determined to be incapacitated retains the right:

(a) To have an annual review of the guardianship report and plan.

(VIOLATED – Her husband/guardian has failed to file such plans for a number of years. During the years in which he DID submit the required plan, he entered “NONE” as his plan of action.)

(b) To have continuing review of the need for restriction of his or her rights.
(VIOLATED – The guardian courts have not required her husband/guardian to file such reports mentioned above and no consistent continuing review has taken place because of that.)

(c) To be restored to capacity at the earliest possible time.
(VIOLATED – Terri Schiavo has not received therapy since prior to the 1992 medical malpractice settlement in her favor which was intended to facilitate such therapy.)

(d) To be treated humanely, with dignity and respect, and to be protected against abuse, neglect, and exploitation.
(VIOLATED – deliberate acts of omission [including humane care and food and water] are considered felony abuse under the law.)

(e) To have a qualified guardian.
(VIOLATED – her husband/guardian is no longer qualified for his failure to comply with Florida law requiring annual review of guardianship, failure to properly maintain the property of the ward, failure to comply with the ward’s retained rights to necessary services and living in open adultery which is a misdemeanor under Florida law.)

(f) To remain as independent as possible, including having his or her preference as to place and standard of living honored, either as he or she expressed or demonstrated his or her preference prior to the determination of his or her incapacity or as he or she currently expresses his or her preference, insofar as such request is reasonable.

(VIOLATED – Terri Schiavo is wrongfully confined to a Hospice facility and further confined to a single room without social interaction, stimulation and human company.)

(g) To be properly educated.

(VIOLATED – Terri has not received speech therapy which could enable her to communicate more effective and to manage table food. She has not received help in learning any other protocol (such as blinking) to assist her in communicating more effectively.)

(h) To receive prudent financial management for his or her property and to be informed how his or her property is being managed, if he or she has lost the right to manage property.

(VIOLATED – Terri’s medical management fund has been all but depleted on legal fees in the pursuit of her death. More than half a million dollars has been paid to one attorney in particular. There is no evidence that Terri would have managed her funds in this way nor given any consent to such.)

(i) To receive necessary services and rehabilitation.
(VIOLATED – Terri Schiavo has not received proper physical, occupational, speech or range of motion therapy. She has been denied treatment for simple infections and she has been denied hospitalization necessitated by serious illness.)

(j) To be free from discrimination because of his or her incapacity.
(VIOLATED – Terri Schiavo has been denied due process in both the guardianship and federal courts.)

(k) To have access to the courts.
(VIOLATED – See above.)

(l) To counsel.
(VIOLATED – Terri Schiavo was never represented during the duration of the guardianship proceedings and did not have a Florida required Guardian ad Litem assigned to represent her during the majority of the proceedings.)

(m) To receive visitors and communicate with others.
(VIOLATED – Terri’s visitor list is strictly managed by her husband/guardian who has, a number of times, barred her family, her friends and her spiritual counsel from visiting her, without the court’s prior approval and on personal whim.)

(n) To notice of all proceedings related to determination of capacity and guardianship, unless the court finds the incapacitated person lacks the ability to comprehend the notice.
(VIOLATED – Terri has not been legally represented in any of the guardianship proceedings and has received no counsel.)




And there's M0RE - MUCH, MUCH more.


734 posted on 07/07/2005 7:06:49 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: bjs1779
But it wasn't like that at all. In essence, the federal government dictated that Terri shall die, by court order my friend. To the very top.

The difference is 'in essence'. In essence because they realized they had no jurisdiction over the case as it was not a federal issue. You can't very well force a federal court to hear a case no matter how many silly unconstitutional edicts the partisan vote panderers in Congress pass

735 posted on 07/07/2005 7:07:49 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: bjs1779; tbritton

There was also a report online by Radjewski, a paramedic that responded. However, that report disappeared very quickly.


736 posted on 07/07/2005 7:07:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Sun

Funny how all of those arguments were struck down on appeal.


737 posted on 07/07/2005 7:10:16 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: billbears
My only problem with any of this is the involvement of the national government in a state issue.

Uh ah, the slave issue still bothers you. Terri is and was not property. If you can show me in the Constitution was she was, please submit it.

738 posted on 07/07/2005 7:11:10 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("I don’t want anyone trying to feed that GIRL" Greer thundered from the bench in 2001)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It doesn't have to be "proven," especially by the standards you have set.

There's more evidence for bullemia than there is for Schiavo physically harming her.


739 posted on 07/07/2005 7:16:08 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: malakhi
Funny how all of those arguments were struck down on appeal.

Yes indeed, we all laugh about dehydrating people every day.

740 posted on 07/07/2005 7:16:34 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("I don’t want anyone trying to feed that GIRL" Greer thundered from the bench in 2001)
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