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The Schiavo Autopsy Results: Terri Dailies July 6
Accuracy in Media-Media Monitor ^ | July 6, 2005 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 07/06/2005 10:50:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Several bloggers have drawn attention to a strange lead in a Washington Post story about the Terri Schiavo autopsy results. The June 16 Post story by David Brown said that "Terri Schiavo died of the effects of a profound and prolonged lack of oxygen to her brain on a day in 1990, but what caused that event isn't known and may never be, the physician who performed her autopsy said…"

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To: floriduh voter

The armed policemen assigned to "protect" Terri physically prevented Monsignor Malinowski from touching her tongue with a communion Host.

Communion in her dying days flatly forbidden. Can't give her nourishment, dontchaknow.

No mercy too small for Michael to deny, no cruelty too crude to invoke...


1,121 posted on 07/10/2005 2:57:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: bjs1779
Yes, why wasn't Terri allowed to wear glasses?

There seems to be no end to Michael's sadistic behavior. Anyone that vicious - as he has been quite willing to show publicly, is a dangerous sociopath. What amazes me is the number here on FR who gloat over Terri's death and support this disgusting man.

This is not a liberal vs conservative issue and not a right to die issue. Every person with even a little compassion, sense of fair play, and support of due process should be outraged by what happened to Terri and her family.

1,122 posted on 07/10/2005 3:30:10 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

"followed me home to Maine"

I didn't know that happened. I went twice to the vigils, but didn't notice anyone following me when I left.
What happened in Maine?


1,123 posted on 07/10/2005 4:21:15 AM PDT by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: pickyourpoison

He had some troubles with Florida taking a presumption of fraud regarding his Maine car tags, iirc.


1,124 posted on 07/10/2005 4:26:36 AM PDT by bvw
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To: 8mmMauser
Well put: "no mercy too small for Michael to deny." How sadistic. Michael and Jodi's pictures should be published so innocent people can avoid them. Are they married now?

BTW, I just read that Durst will be released.

1,125 posted on 07/10/2005 4:39:50 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

Schindlers surmounted their own grief to comfort us!



Perfect summation. I agree, God prepared the Schindlers well. While fighting for the life of their daughter through all the stone walling, lies, hate, deception they still had love in their hearts to comfort us. Truly humbling, indeed!


1,126 posted on 07/10/2005 5:35:01 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Oh I agree completely. He didn't want her to remember and tell what happened.


1,127 posted on 07/10/2005 6:09:29 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: AnimalLover
The President, Governor, Senate and Congress did NOT act on their own to do something when they briefly tried.

Good point...they were responding to their constituents' concerns.

1,128 posted on 07/10/2005 8:26:13 AM PDT by syriacus (Did one of Michael's girlfriends have a key to Terri's apartment?)
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To: AnimalLover

How could McCabe do a thorough investigation when he never interviewed the Schindler's? Please keep the pressure on Jeb Bush. On the other hand, Jeb Bush is a hopeless fool who stood there picking his nose while an innocent disabled woman was dehydrated and starved to death. Why waste any time communicating with that creep? Will there ever be justice for Terri?


1,129 posted on 07/10/2005 7:58:18 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (They killed Terri - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Saundra - what part of CA do you call home?

With respect to Gov. Bush - I've had it with him too.
Tried to find an address to write to Katherine Harris
about this latest bill about "hearsay" rights but seems
only Floridians can write her on line. Guess I'll have
to go snail mail to Washington.

I had sent her a copy of the package sent to Frist, DeLay,
Martinez, Weldon and Rohrbacher about a month ago. My
letter requested a thorough investigation of the entire
Terri case - all parts of government including judiciary.
Included some great input from Empire Journal - they
really research their topics - sent only pertinent data
about Crist, McCabe, Greer, attorneys and legislators
and their conflicts of interest, law breaking, etc.

Strange, haven't heard from anyone yet. That's why I
thought I'd give Katherine Harris a try. It's hard
when you live in California and the action is back East.
Of course, there are all kinds of cover ups here too but
they are pretty much kept under the radar. By the way,
has anyone heard anything about the Veteran Rami and the
Rami Rangers who were trying to help him?
1,130 posted on 07/11/2005 12:15:58 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: pickyourpoison

I was there for three weeks. One Sunday morning before they pulled Terri's feeding tubes, the gendermes chased me down on motorcycle, from about a half mile after the Winn Dixie intersection, pulled me over for a half hour while checking me out, treating me as a criminal. I was driving slowly on a nearly deserted street to church.

They finally found my Maine license tag was expired and issued me a ticket.

Some time later in Maine, the Clearwater court issued me a demand that I provide proof that I had complied with Maine laws, giving me a short response time, and a dire warning that if I did not meet their deadline, they would have my Maine drivers licence revoked and I would be subject to some sinister sounding court penalties.

The Clearwater Court presumed jurisdiction over Maine here in Maine, that was my point.


1,131 posted on 07/11/2005 3:33:27 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser; Pepper777; Lesforlife; russesjunjee; True Republican Patriot; ClancyJ; T'wit; ...

'Judicial murder' and Terri Schiavo

By Nat Hentoff
July 11, 2005

While editorials across the nation agreed in chorus that at last, Terri Schiavo will rest in peace, the autopsy report declined such certainty:"It is the policy of this office that no case is ever closed and that all determinations are to be reconsidered upon receipt of credible, new information." Even if no new information surfaces, how Terri Schiavo was put to death is causing many Americans to confront their own death.

Pat Anderson, for a long time the attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents, said the day Terri died of dehydration as ordered by the courts and her husband: "Euthanasia in America now has a name and a face." Dr. Jon Thogmartin's autopsy report made clear that Terri Schiavo was not dying, let alone terminal. As Dr. Carl D'Angio wrote in a June 21 letter in the New York Times: "Her family loved what was left of her and asked only to be permitted to care for her at their own expense. My question is, who or what was better served by her passive execution by water deprivation than by the first alternative?"

Responding to the autopsy report, Terri's parents said: "Terri's case was NOT an end-of-life case. Terri's case was about ending a disabled person's life. Terri was brain-injured. This does NOT mean that she was brain-dead." Her parents also noted that "according to the medical examiner, Terri was given morphine for pain as she died ... If Terri could feel no pain, as some would say, why would these drugs be necessary? In our opinion, the treating health care officials understood that Terri felt pain."

There was a service when Michael Schiavo, her husband, buried her cremated remains on June 20 in Clearwater, Fla., where he lives. However, Terri's parents were not there and he did not tell them. That tells me something about Michael Schiavo.

Also, on a bronze grave marker he had taken pains to order, he wrote: "I kept my promise." Concurring, a headline in the June 16 New York Post exclaimed: "Terri had no hope, autopsy supports her husband." With few exceptions, this was also the opinion of many editorial writers and columnists around the country. Another consensus in the media was that her rights had been, indeed laboriously, upheld by the courts, up to and including the Supreme Court.

But the true core of this case, resulting in the extraction of her life, was the decision by Circuit Judge George Greer in Florida that Michael Schiavo had kept his promise by adhering to what he claims Terri told him, before her brain injury, that she would not want to live if she were kept artificially alive.

This alleged statement was just hearsay, confirmed only by Michael Schiavo's brother and sister-in-law. But Judge Greer paid no attention to the sworn testimony of a close friend of Terri, who testified Terri had said her wishes would have been to go on living in such a situation.

Moreover, Judge Greer repeatedly refused to take into consideration, with regard to the husband's credibility, that Michael Schiavo, after Terri became disabled, had for years been living with another woman, with whom he's had two children, although he had said he would devote his life to caring for his wife.

Also, Michael Schiavo did not mention her alleged wishes for years after her brain damage, at one point saying he didn't know her wishes. Yet Judge Greer allowed Michael Schiavo to act as her guardian, while not permitting Terri to have her own lawyer representing her. (Her parents had a lawyer, but elementary due process required that an attorney directly represent this disabled woman, whose husband was intent on her interment.)

After the autopsy, there were renewed, scathing attacks on those members of Congress who had tried to have the federal courts intervene to save Terri's life. But since a state court judge had sentenced her to death, ordering her feeding tube removed three times, elementary due process required a review of the entire case in the federal courts by authority of the 14th Amendment's "equal protection of the laws." Most of the media omitted the fact that in Congress, there were many Democrats as well as Republicans who tried hard to provide Terri the essence of our legal system due process before it was too late.

But then, the great majority of the federal judges who became involved relied entirely on the state circuit judge's unyielding death sentence. I called this judicial murder, the longest public execution in our history. Despite Michael Schiavo's bronze marker on her grave, I have not changed my mind.

Michael Schiavo's literary agent, David Vigliano, is sending proposals for a book by the husband to publishers. Says Mr. Vigliano: "I think this is the seminal case in the right to die with dignity story." No.

This is the seminal case for whether euthanasia for the seriously disabled becomes embedded in the American way of death.

http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20050710-100558-1213r.htm


1,132 posted on 07/11/2005 3:52:07 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: amdgmary

Thanks for posting Nat Hentoff's column.


1,133 posted on 07/11/2005 4:55:47 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Saundra Duffy
>> Please keep the pressure on Jeb Bush. On the other hand, Jeb Bush is a hopeless fool who stood there picking his nose while an innocent disabled woman was dehydrated and starved to death. Why waste any time communicating with that creep?

Stay away, these people are poisonous. McCabe produced a non-report saying why he refused to investigate. It had not one new fact or finding. The liberals instantly turned it into a new Book of Revelations, hot off the press, proving that Michael was innocent. They trotted out these grand conclusions -- all based on thin air! A hilarious spectacle :-) But also a lesson: we are not going to get any sort of truth-seeing or cooperation from the local political machine or the media.

1,134 posted on 07/11/2005 5:33:37 AM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: amdgmary

Excellent summary. Hentoff is a man of the Left but he has always been a truth-seeker. He sees this case perfectly.


1,135 posted on 07/11/2005 6:16:51 AM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: amdgmary
>> "I kept my promise."

We can pretty well figure what the promise was:

I WARNED YOU, IF YOU WASTED ANY MORE MONEY AT THE BEAUTY SALON, I WOULD KILL YOU!!

1,136 posted on 07/11/2005 6:19:43 AM PDT by T'wit ("My little jokes don't hurt nobody. But when Congress makes a joke, it's the LAW!" -- Will Rogers)
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To: amdgmary

Thank you for posting that article. His last sentence is right on the mark.


1,137 posted on 07/11/2005 6:24:10 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: amdgmary
It is refreshing to see someone who said it like it is...

Pat Anderson, for a long time the attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents, said the day Terri died of dehydration as ordered by the courts and her husband: "Euthanasia in America now has a name and a face."

I have great admiration for Pat Anderson for all she has been through on pursuit of the truth.

8mm

1,138 posted on 07/11/2005 7:46:19 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

I had the honor of meeting the Schindlers when I went to the Rose Rally for Terri in Tallahassee...they astonished me with their level of compassion for others, their gratitude, and their obvious love for Terri. I couldn't have fared as well under the kind of stress they endured...the Lord was surely there walking them through this.


1,139 posted on 07/11/2005 8:30:32 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: All

WOW, i leave for a weekend and come back to see still lots of crap being spewed by people who obviously don't know what really happend to Terri or just don't care to know the truth. KDD, get your facts straight! Terri was not bulimic and was not brain dead.

Terri was murdered by Florida and Michael Schiavo. Whether or not justice will ever happen for Terri is one that I am not sure will ever happen on this earth, but I'm sure it will happen in the afterlife.

I for one will never forget Terri and what she ment to me. The first time I heard her name was right before her feeding tube was pulled over a year ago. I was listening to Glenn Beck talk about this gal in Florida and from then on out I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It was shortly after that I got more personally involved and became and activist for the right to life and Terri. I will forever be an activist for Terri even though she is gone.


1,140 posted on 07/11/2005 8:40:46 AM PDT by Halls (Terri Schindler Schiavo was murdered legally in our country, NEVER FORGET!!!)
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