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G.O.P. Asks Conservative Allies to Cool Rhetoric Over the Court (No Complaining About Gonzales)
NY Times ^ | July 6, 2005 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and CARL HULSE

Posted on 07/05/2005 7:44:32 PM PDT by nj26

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To: Miss Marple
"HE IS NOT THE NOMINEE! Do you think the President would have nominated Gonzalez to the AG position (very important in the War on Terror) when he KNEW there would be a vacancy on the court and he was going to nominate him? For what possible reason would he have put Gonzalez through one confirmation hearing, only to have him undergo another one less than 6 months later, PLUS having to find another AG?"

If Gonzalez wasn't being considered, the President would have publicly expressed some of the points you made above, or simply stated that AG Gonzalez is happy in his present post and is not interested in a spot on the SC at this time. He hasn't.

121 posted on 07/05/2005 8:54:34 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: Owen

Gonzales is more conservative than O'Conner. How much more is uncertain.


122 posted on 07/05/2005 8:55:20 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: nj26
My theory (every bit as uninformed, undocumented, and speculative as anyone else's, but it's by damn my theory, and I'm sticking to it) is that the public defense of Gonzales doesn't indicate that he will be the nominee; if anything, I see it as a sign that he's not the guy.

President Bush has to defend Gonzales to some extent, even if only to preserve his effectiveness at his AG post. No way the President can stand idly by while his newly-confirmed Cabinet Officer is savaged, no matter the source of the savaging.

Moreover, the public defense of Gonzales affords the President political cover. He is now more free to bypass Gonzales (which, my guess, he was going to anyway); for one thing, he'll be able to say that those "crazy right-wingers" didn't intimidate him -- and then nominate a "crazy right-winger."

Works for me.

123 posted on 07/05/2005 8:55:41 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (What happens in Waxhaw STAYS in Waxhaw.)
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To: nj26

So we're not even to complain when they kick us?


124 posted on 07/05/2005 8:56:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Athiest and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Owen
We have GOP senators up for re-election next year from blue states. Rick Santorum is one and he's in for a tough battle. There is no reason to award that seat to a Dem by letting him be painted as an extremist.

Ricky has done his best over the past few years that he isn't even a conservative, let alone an extremist.

BTW, Ricky is going to lose because he has shifted to the left.

125 posted on 07/05/2005 8:57:03 PM PDT by Badray
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To: bill1952

Much agreed. The time to be pro-active and speak out is NOW. Not AFTER Gonzalez or someone like him is picked.


126 posted on 07/05/2005 8:57:06 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: PhiKapMom

bashing of the Senators including my two conservative Senators Inhofe and Coburn is beyond pale

I must have missed that post. point to it.

BTW, my past fund raising and political works far exceed the time since I found this forum.


127 posted on 07/05/2005 8:57:54 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: TAdams8591
Why should he make a statement that he ISN'T considering Gonzalez? Should he also make a statement that he isn't considering Condi Rice or Donald Rumsfeld?

I guess since he hasn't made a public statement that he isn't considering Miss Marple I should start preparing for the confirmation hearings.

128 posted on 07/05/2005 8:58:06 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: atlanta67
Wow, you're a real wizzz on politics!
/sarcasm
129 posted on 07/05/2005 8:59:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Athiest and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: atlanta67
Planned Parenthood v. Casey, for one.
130 posted on 07/05/2005 9:00:50 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Miss Marple

Well, the concern isn't about Condo or Donald, is it?


131 posted on 07/05/2005 9:04:18 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Soul Seeker

"The WOT is progressing just fine according to military on the ground."

You missed the point. I'm not talking about the shooting war or the military. I am talking about our loss of rights at home (secret accusations and charges, warrantless searches with no judicial review, etc.)

I have a different opinion on the court.


132 posted on 07/05/2005 9:04:58 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: atlanta67
Welcome to FR. There are some knee jerks conservatives here that will make an Everest of doom and gloom not only from a mole hill but also from absolutely nothing.
133 posted on 07/05/2005 9:05:34 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: nj26

I only want a conservative judge .....bump


134 posted on 07/05/2005 9:06:17 PM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: Wolfhound777

Ah, well I don't happen to feel my rights have been stripped away by the Patriot Act so I'd still disagree.

Whereas my rights have been stripped away in, say, the recent KELO decision.


135 posted on 07/05/2005 9:08:04 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker
Well, whatever he deserves, it seems to me a fool's errand to try to control the public debate once the horse is out of the barn.

The insider reaction is feeding the sense of unease in flyover country.

136 posted on 07/05/2005 9:08:29 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: henderson field

So you are absolutely sure that the General Attorney of the United States is not an American?! My advice that you go early tomorrow morning and ask your doctor for a different prescription


137 posted on 07/05/2005 9:08:45 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: bill1952

Reasonable people wouldn't be concerned about Gonzalez, either.


138 posted on 07/05/2005 9:10:02 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Soul Seeker

Your not hurting my feelings by disagreeing :) I just happen to think it's unecessary and the potential for abuse is just not worth it.


139 posted on 07/05/2005 9:11:47 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Miss Marple
My comment was directed to your comment. If it is the case that the president isn't considering Gonzalez for the SC because of all the reasons you suggest, he should say so because it's the TRUTH and it would end the discussion.

However, I suspect that you are wrong. Gonzalez IS in the running and that' s why the president has refused to deny it. Thus, now is NOT the time for conservatives to be "quiet".

"Should he also make a statement that he isn't considering Condi Rice or Donald Rumsfeld"

In the context of the conversation on this thread the above comment makes NO SENSE, sorry. Neither Rummy or Rice appear to be in the running for an SC position, there has been no discussion among conservatives about them either way and thus no reason for them to be mentioned by the president. The same cannot be said for Gonzalez.

140 posted on 07/05/2005 9:12:00 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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