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To: HitmanNY
Hi HitmanNY

Yes I agree with that, but this is not a mainstream viewpoint for women. So it cannot therefore explain the high failure in marriage and the downturn in morality resulting in quick fire short term relationships that are not lasting longer than breakfast.

"The fact that enough women give away their sexual goodies even though they expect a pitifully low standard of conduct from the men in their lives (at least in comparison to the standard of conduct expected in 1890, 1910, 1930, 1950, etc) does have something to do with general decline in morals, it also has to do with a fundamental misunderstanding of what they really want in a relationship."

This is a good point you make but again the cause is IMO based on a lowering of expectation ON BOTH sides. in other words the morality benchmark has been lowered in society. Standards where higher in the past behavior from those courting and those being courted was different. THAT is what has changed the dynamics of marriage and long term relationships.

674 posted on 07/06/2005 12:19:35 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Kelly_2000

Just curious, but how do you know the morality benchmark has been lowered?


676 posted on 07/06/2005 12:22:02 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Kelly_2000
This is a good point you make but again the cause is IMO based on a lowering of expectation ON BOTH sides.
in other words the morality benchmark has been lowered in society.

Who do you think lowered the benchmark on the Female side?
I see vague male-bashing in your writing. Care to elaborate?

678 posted on 07/06/2005 12:26:27 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Kelly_2000

Hi Kelly!
Fancy meeting you here! I agree with all your statements... that you had to spend so much time earlier defending the definition of feminism should have been a tip-off that these guys would argue with a sign post!


679 posted on 07/06/2005 12:26:33 AM PDT by xVIer
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To: Kelly_2000
This is a good point you make but again the cause is IMO based on a lowering of expectation ON BOTH sides. in other words the morality benchmark has been lowered in society

Thanks and I am sorry I was not more clear. We are in agreement - clearly things have to be handled on both sides of the equation. If I didn't make it clear in that post, I think I covered that base in other related ones. But to be explicit, I agree with you 100%.

I think you are correct, and wise. ;-)

684 posted on 07/06/2005 12:32:29 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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