[HitmanLV]

This is a good point you make but again the cause is IMO based on a lowering of expectation ON BOTH sides. in other words the morality benchmark has been lowered in society

Thanks and I am sorry I was not more clear. We are in agreement - clearly things have to be handled on both sides of the equation. If I didn't make it clear in that post, I think I covered that base in other related ones. But to be explicit, I agree with you 100%.

I think you are correct, and wise. ;-)

[Kelly_2000]

Thank you hitmanNY I actually agree with you 100% it is refreshing to see that we can agree as men and women on this subject ;-)

Conservative values can be a way ahead to solve this problem many of these issues have been a result of liberal thinking and "advances"