Toyota to build 100,000 vehicles per year in Ontario (Americans too illiterate to train)

CBC ^ | July 3, 2005 | STEVE ERWIN

[beaver fever]

My understanding is that GM stopped production of Fisher bodied Studebakers in 1964, maybe they needed to increase capacity and Studebacker was a drag on production.

But Fisher was a design studio as well as a production facility. I think the Avanti scared the GM bureaucrats

I still remember the step-plate on my dad's 53 Studebacker Commander and my own 64 Chevy II; Body by Fisher.
The Avanti was way ahead of it's time even for the Italians.

[oldbrowser]

More like Toyota is getting fed up with the UAW screwing with their NUMMI plant in California.

Exactly.

[Spktyr]

The Avanti was designed by an American, Raymond Loewy. He designed many of the classic Studebakers, many Streamliner trains, and the classic Coca-Cola bottle.

Until very recently, Jaguar sedan bodies and body parts were stamped out by Pressed Steel Fisher in the UK. Yup, same company (initially).

Fischer was originally a coachworks that designed and built their own bodies, but by the 80s, it was just a name for cars churned out by the GM design studios, and the bodywork was made at GM suppliers. GM bought the company in the early 60s. In 1964-65, they sold off the production facilities. PSF-UK was merged with BMC/British Leyland in 1965 and thus was taken out of the GM orbit.

[Spktyr]

Up until the post war era. After about 1960, a lot more cars started coming from GM without the Fisher markings.

[HitmanLV]

I worked in NYC in two major law firms for about eight years, and in that time I hired and supervised many 100 of temps, usually out-of-work actors and recent college or law school grads.

In that whole time, I only encountered maybe a half dozen temps that were any good, and really only two excellent ones.

I know where these guys are coming from.

[Spktyr]

Also, production Avantis are *slow* by modern standards. The new GTO, the C5 Vette, the new Mustang GT, all of them are faster and quicker than the Avanti, which was still in production until a couple years ago.

[ArmedNReady]

"More like Toyota is getting fed up with the UAW screwing with their NUMMI plant"

That and healthcare benefits that would need to be paid to American workers.

[Spktyr]

Perhaps not, since their other US plants do not have excessive healthcare costs.

Toyota's got the UAW demanding cradle-to-grave 100% everything covered in CA, though.

[BurbankKarl]

Where is the quote from the nea?

[WolfRunnerWoman]

Some will resemble those remarks.(-;

[mugs99]

General Motors bought 60 percent interest in Fisher Body in 1919 and the remaining 40 percent in 1926. Fisher built GM, Ford and Dodge bodies besides Studebakers. They also built airplanes during WWI and WWII.
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[mugs99]

My understanding is that GM stopped production of Fisher bodied Studebakers in 1964, maybe they needed to increase capacity and Studebacker was a drag on production.

That may have been a factor, but I think Studebaker's financial problems were the main cause. Studebaker did their own designs and engineering and could have used another stamping plant.

Studebaker paid the highest wages and benefits in the industry, and their production costs were just too high to allow them to be competitive. They are the only automaker who never had a workers strike.

I still remember the step-plate on my dad's 53 Studebacker Commander

Many, including myself, consider the 1953 Studebaker the most beautiful car ever made!
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[mugs99]

Will they do 200mph on the flats?
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[danmar]

FWIW, I wonder how many Fortune 500 CEOs could pass a spelling test?

Good point!... I judge people's education by their "signature"

Ones signature alone it shows that persons level of education.

[VideoDoctor]

Many companies built plants where they got tax breaks and could employ in a "right to work" state. They later found out the expense of training people who lacked in education.
They were slow to learn = TIME IS MONEY.

2004-2005 Education Rankings

31 - Michigan
33 - Texas
37 - Kentucky
41 - Tennessee
44 - Alabama
47 - Mississippi

[Spktyr]

Production Avantis won't, either. Most of them are hard pressed to break 140.

[Wiz]

Toyota's president said he would consider to rise the price of Toyota's cars in US so it would not threat the shares of other US firms, probably to survive together in the market.

[docbnj]

No, boycotting Toyota is NOT the answer. Looks as if you need to read the article again (and again), until you understand it.

Or maybe we need to present it to you as a graphic.

[stefan10]

As far as i know this is old news.

i read that several weeks ago in the financial press.

The main argument was the health care system or better the lower costs (risks) in Canada and not the education of the workers.

[GodBlessRonaldReagan]

Many, including myself, consider the 1953 Studebaker the most beautiful car ever made!

Count me in! The Hawk was a knockout too.