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To: TChris

I bought The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe for my grandkids thinking it would a decent "Christian" video they could watch. That stuff is not Christian. It is full of occultic pagan themes and imagery. I wouldn't let the kids see it and threw it away ($20 video). Beware there is stuff masquerading as "Christian" but it is not. Many people will be fooled by this junk.


13 posted on 06/28/2005 11:32:31 AM PDT by 3dognight
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To: 3dognight

C.S. Lewis was one of the most outspokenly Christian writers of all time. Is Tolkien anti-Christian as well?


20 posted on 06/28/2005 11:35:40 AM PDT by Borges
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To: 3dognight
Hmm next time get your grand kids a book instead of a video. They'll thank you later.

The Chronicals of Narnia are VERY Christian. Try reading the books straight from CS's pen instead of some dressed up hollywood trash.
23 posted on 06/28/2005 11:36:25 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: 3dognight
That stuff is not Christian.

I don't think C.S. Lewis wrote it to be directly Christian, but to have Christian values and analogies. If you have read any of Lewis' writings, you'll have no question of his Christian beliefs.

29 posted on 06/28/2005 11:40:29 AM PDT by TChris ("You tweachewous miscweant!" -- Elmer Fudd)
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To: 3dognight
Are you familiar with the concept of 'allegory'?

No one can seriously question C.S. Lewis's credentials as a Christian.

43 posted on 06/28/2005 11:46:47 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: 3dognight
I bought The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe for my grandkids thinking it would a decent "Christian" video they could watch. That stuff is not Christian. It is full of occultic pagan themes and imagery. I wouldn't let the kids see it and threw it away ($20 video). Beware there is stuff masquerading as "Christian" but it is not. Many people will be fooled by this junk.

Sir or ma'am:

You need to try much harder not to sound foolish in public.

I myself was resued from a life of teenaged cheapjack lunk-hood by the Chronicles of Narnia and set happily on the path back to Christ. I will not have a word said against the books.

I don't know which of the two videos (the cartoon or the BBC live-actions films) you saw, but it is extraordinarliy silly to watch a middlingly-done film adaptation of one book, and then to blithely dismiss an entire series of books that have likely done far more than you have to bring others back to God and Christ and give them joy in His service.

I am not foolish enough to expect a retraction or an apology for so wholesale and defamatory a statement as the sort you have uttered. A becoming silence in the face of your own ignorance is quite enough.

Incredibly sincerely,

Dunce

44 posted on 06/28/2005 11:46:56 AM PDT by Dunstan McShane
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To: 3dognight

reading posts like this it is no wonder many "Christians" come across as uneducated baffoons.


52 posted on 06/28/2005 11:51:28 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: 3dognight

Lewis was very much a Christian. But he was also a Medieval Literature specialist and his own literature carried a lot of those themes. I'm very careful about those things, but I really, really like Lewis. My own child watched the videos and read the books.


59 posted on 06/28/2005 11:54:43 AM PDT by twigs
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To: 3dognight

There's a TLTWATW video out?

Try reading the book instead.


63 posted on 06/28/2005 11:56:19 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: 3dognight

Keep the bible away from them too. There's this episode about a witch from Endor in it.


64 posted on 06/28/2005 11:56:44 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 3dognight

Perhaps you should read C.S. Lewis' writings before you make such an uninformed comment.

Try the Focus on the Family Radio adaptations available on CD. They are awesomely well done and if nothing else instill a sense of honor and heroism in my kids as they see the transformation of Edmund from a weasel who torments his sister into a King of Narnia through the self sacrifice of Aslan.

Then there is Eustace (Dawn Treader, Silver Chair) who is also transformed from a public school bully into a boy who repents his evil and selfish nature to become a hero.

Furthermore, they model gender based behavior of womanly gentleness and kindess and manly humility and heroics on the part of the children.

And Lewis was prescient as presenting an Islamic like culture and religion as the foe of civilisation/Christianity in the end times "The Last Battle".


66 posted on 06/28/2005 11:58:10 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: 3dognight

Are you kidding me?!? I read the series first back around 7-8 years old. Re-read it about 11 and I recognized many of allegorical references to Christianity Lewis was making. I treasure those books from a child's point of view as one of my first understandings of Christ's sacrifice (as symbolized by Aslan being killed)


91 posted on 06/28/2005 12:09:57 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: 3dognight

I'm sorry that you'ge getting trashed on here. I got into occult things, really without knowing what I was doing, in high school and for many, many years afterwards, I would not look at or read anything occultist for fear of being drawn back into it. So you are wise, my friend, in being on the alert against this insidious evil. You need to do what you believe is best in protecting your grandchildren.

That said, I really don't believe that Lewis falls into that category, although I can understand that reading selected things by him could lead you to that conclusion. I wrote my master's thesis on Lewis and read many of his works, a lot of what he wrote about his works and what others wrote about him, plus a lot about his life. One of the things that I most remember about him--and that I come to appreciate more and more in this post-modern world--is that he refused ever to use the word create in relation to what he did. He was adamant that he reflected God's glory and never created anything--that was God's domain.

He was fascinated by mythology and there is nothing wrong in that as long as a person does not confuse it with truth. I don't believe Lewis ever did. I recommend to you a short book he wrote that I want to get back to this summer. I wish to teach and I want to remember what he wrote there as I go into the classroom. It's The Abolition of Man. I think you would appreciate it. It's short, but a thought-provoking read. God bless you as you help with your grandchildren in a difficult world.


112 posted on 06/28/2005 12:20:40 PM PDT by twigs
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To: 3dognight

If you read the books (I don't know what the video you mention is like) you will see that they do not at all promote weird occultism. They are as far from "Harry Potter" as they can get.

C.S. Lewis was a good writer and a sincere Christian.

The books are very good kids' books, and most adults would like them for a quick read as well.

Or try his adult trilogy that starts with "Out of the Silent Planet". There's more inspirational reading than just the Bible. Kids need to read other books and Lewis' are perfectly safe.


199 posted on 06/28/2005 1:11:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: 3dognight; JDBrown90
Then later he is resurrected to transform Narnia into a heaven on Earth.

Many people will be fooled by this junk.

The theme of creating a heaven on earth fits well with Disney's agenda. C.S. Lewis understood clearly the biblical teaching summarized by the words of Christ: "My kingdom is not of this world." We should expect Disney to seek fortune through a misrepresentation of biblical teaching. Mel Gibson was interested in letting the truth speak for itself. He created The Passion at his own expense and risk. Disney is no Mel Gibson, with or without Eisner at the hellm.

214 posted on 06/28/2005 1:22:03 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: 3dognight; RosieCotton; JenB; Lil'freeper; SuziQ
I bought The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe for my grandkids thinking it would a decent "Christian" video they could watch.

Well, first the "movie" you bought is not this version. But do yourself a favor and read the book (it's a quick read for adults) before you make a final judgement.

But, forheavenssake, don't base your opinion on the cartoon version.

246 posted on 06/29/2005 6:29:47 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (www.kaineisnotable.com)
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