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Disney finds religion for its "Chronicles of Narnia"
The Houston Chronicle ^ | June 27, 2005 | Mark I. Pinsky

Posted on 06/28/2005 11:19:26 AM PDT by JDBrown90

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To: Dunstan McShane

Great testimony.

You remember no doubt the great conversation between Jill and Aslan where she tells Aslan that she and Eustance called for him from the school yard. Aslan correct her and points out that, in fact, it was he who had called her first.....


261 posted on 06/29/2005 9:59:11 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude; Dunstan McShane

"'Beloved,' said the Glorious One, 'unless thy desire had been for me thou wouldst not have sought so long and so truly. For all find what they truly seek.'"


262 posted on 06/29/2005 10:31:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: ConservativeDude
You remember no doubt the great conversation between Jill and Aslan where she tells Aslan that she and Eustance called for him from the school yard. Aslan correct her and points out that, in fact, it was he who had called her first.....

Yes, sir--The Silver Chair: "You would not have been calling me unless I had been calling you," or words to that effect. One of my favorites.

Actually, they're all my favorites.

263 posted on 06/29/2005 10:47:00 AM PDT by Dunstan McShane
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To: AnAmericanMother

That statement is true enough....provided one understands that the desire to find Him, is also given by Him.....

Then again, the Westminster Confession asserts, I think, correctly, that cognitive recognition of Christ is necessary. I guess that is I suppose the difference between the Anglican/Catholic Lewis and my Puritanical, Calvinistic self....


264 posted on 06/29/2005 10:51:37 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: mware
He died on the same day as John F. Kennedy.

So did Aldous Huxley.

265 posted on 06/29/2005 8:15:13 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Tax-chick

67 times through here, and I've been reading it a 68th time with my boys. I was stunned how easy a read it is compared to the old days when I'd savor the book for at least 4-6 hours. I've read each one of the books in the series over 45 times with The Silver Chair being my least favorite, and The Last Battle being my most, but also the second one in the series that at age 6 got me to cry. (The first being Aslan's death in Wardrobe).

I usually go through about 10-12 pages of Harry Potter with my boys at bedtime. We're almost on book 3. (Next week) I sat down with them one night with Wardrobe and was on page 35 by the time it was time to put them to bed. I read it a second night for them and stopped at about page 65. My 5 year old loved it, but my 3 year old was bored. He just sat around because Daddy was reading, and he didn't understand the story, but enjoyed spending Daddy time with his brother. Though he DID comment on Faun Tumnus. (Spelling??... I'm running on 12 hours sleep over the last 8 days. Sorry)

Paul

Paul


266 posted on 06/30/2005 11:39:48 AM PDT by spacewarp (Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
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To: spacewarp

Go to sleep. Go to sleeeeep.


267 posted on 06/30/2005 2:00:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: 3dognight
>>So I'm not in a rush to go see/read more CS Lewis. If I bite into a piece of fruit and it's rotten I don't finish eating it to see if there's any good part of it.<<



Man, I think you're way out of your depth, here. C.S. Lewis, and specifically "Mere Christianity" changed my life. Reading your posts here, I seriously doubt I will persuade you or change your mind, but in my opinion you would be profoundly irresponsible - particularly in light of your reliance on the wacky webiste you linked - to steer anyone away from Lewis.


C. S. Lewis Quotes

A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.
C. S. Lewis

A man who is eating or lying with his wife or preparing to go to sleep in humility, thankfulness and temperance, is, by Christian standards, in an infinitely higher state than one who is listening to Bach or reading Plato in a state of pride.
C. S. Lewis

A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading.
C. S. Lewis

Affection is responsible for nine-tenths of whatever solid and durable happiness there is in our lives.
C. S. Lewis

Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither.
C. S. Lewis

An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason.
C. S. Lewis

Can a mortal ask questions which God finds unanswerable? Quite easily, I should think. All nonsense questions are unanswerable.
C. S. Lewis

Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.
C. S. Lewis

Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.
C. S. Lewis

Don't say it was "delightful"; make us say "delightful" when we've read the description. You see, all those words (horrifying, wonderful, hideous, exquisite) are only like saying to your readers "Please will you do the job for me."
C. S. Lewis

Don't use words too big for the subject. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite.
C. S. Lewis

Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis

Eros will have naked bodies; Friendship naked personalities.
C. S. Lewis

Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth (without caring twopence how often it has been told before) you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed it.
C. S. Lewis

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.
C. S. Lewis

Failures are finger posts on the road to achievement.
C. S. Lewis

Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another, "What! You too? I thought I was the only one!"
C. S. Lewis

Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art... It has no survival value; rather it is one of those things that give value to survival.
C. S. Lewis

God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there. There is no such thing.
C. S. Lewis

Has this world been so kind to you that you should leave with regret? There are better things ahead than any we leave behind.
C. S. Lewis

How incessant and great are the ills with which a prolonged old age is replete.
C. S. Lewis

Humans are amphibians - half spirit and half animal. As spirits they belong to the eternal world, but as animals they inhabit time.
C. S. Lewis

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
C. S. Lewis

I gave in, and admitted that God was God.
C. S. Lewis

I sometimes wander whether all pleasures are not substitutes for joy.
C. S. Lewis

If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.
C. S. Lewis

If we could know which of us, darling, would be the first to go, who would be first to breast the swelling tide and step alone upon the other side - if we could know!
C. S. Lewis

If we cut up beasts simply because they cannot prevent us and because we are backing our own side in the struggle for existence, it is only logical to cut up imbeciles, criminals, enemies, or capitalists for the same reasons.
C. S. Lewis

If we really think that home is elsewhere and that this life is a "wandering to find home," why should we not look forward to the arrival?
C. S. Lewis

If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.
C. S. Lewis

If you read history you will find that the Christians who did most for the present world were precisely those who thought most of the next. It is since Christians have largely ceased to think of the other world that they have become so ineffective in this.
C. S. Lewis

It is hard to have patience with people who say "There is no death" or "Death doesn't matter." There is death. And whatever is matters. And whatever happens has consequences, and it and they are irrevocable and irreversible. You might as well say that birth doesn't matter.
C. S. Lewis

It is only when you are asked to believe in Reason coming from non-reason that you must cry Halt. Human minds. They do not come from nowhere.
C. S. Lewis

It may be hard for an egg to turn into a bird: it would be a jolly sight harder for it to learn to fly while remaining an egg. We are like eggs at present. And you cannot go on indefinitely being just an ordinary, decent egg. We must be hatched or go bad.
C. S. Lewis

It's so much easier to pray for a bore than to go and see one.
C. S. Lewis

Let's pray that the human race never escapes from Earth to spread its iniquity elsewhere.
C. S. Lewis

Literature adds to reality, it does not simply describe it. It enriches the necessary competencies that daily life requires and provides; and in this respect, it irrigates the deserts that our lives have already become.
C. S. Lewis

Long before history began we men have got together apart from the women and done things. We had time.
C. S. Lewis

Miracles are a retelling in small letters of the very same story which is written across the whole world in letters too large for some of us to see.
C. S. Lewis

Miracles do not, in fact, break the laws of nature.
C. S. Lewis

Much of the modern resistance to chastity comes from men's belief that they "own" their bodies - those vast and perilous estates, pulsating with the energy that made the worlds, in which they find themselves without their consent and from which they are ejected at the pleasure of Another!
C. S. Lewis

No one ever told me that grief felt so like fear.
C. S. Lewis

Nothing that you have not given away will ever be really yours.
C. S. Lewis

Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.
C. S. Lewis

Part of every misery is, so to speak, the misery's shadow or reflection: the fact that you don't merely suffer but have to keep on thinking about the fact that you suffer. I not only live each endless day in grief, but live each day thinking about living each day in grief.
C. S. Lewis

Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning.
C. S. Lewis

Some people feel guilty about their anxieties and regard them as a defect of faith but they are afflictions, not sins. Like all afflictions, they are, if we can so take them, our share in the passion of Christ.
C. S. Lewis

Telling us to obey instinct is like telling us to obey 'people.' People say different things: so do instincts. Our instincts are at war... Each instinct, if you listen to it, will claim to be gratified at the expense of the rest.
C. S. Lewis

The future is something which everyone reaches at the rate of 60 minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is.
C. S. Lewis

The long, dull, monotonous years of middle-aged prosperity or middle-aged adversity are excellent campaigning weather for the devil.
C. S. Lewis

The real Oxford is a close corporation of jolly, untidy, lazy, good-for-nothing humorous old men, who have been electing their own successors ever since the world began and who intend to go on with it. They'll squeeze under the Revolution or leap over it when the time comes, don't you worry.
C. S. Lewis

The real problem is not why some pious, humble, believing people suffer, but why some do not.
C. S. Lewis

The safest road to hell is the gradual one-the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts.
C. S. Lewis

The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles, but to irrigate deserts.
C. S. Lewis

There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "All right, then, have it your way."
C. S. Lewis

There is, hidden or flaunted, a sword between the sexes till an entire marriage reconciles them.
C. S. Lewis

Thirty was so strange for me. I've really had to come to terms with the fact that I am now a walking and talking adult.
C. S. Lewis

This is one of the miracles of love: It gives a power of seeing through its own enchantments and yet not being disenchanted.
C. S. Lewis

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.
C. S. Lewis

We are what we believe we are.
C. S. Lewis

What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step.
C. S. Lewis

What seem our worst prayers may really be, in God's eyes, our best. Those, I mean, which are least supported by devotional feeling. For these may come from a deeper level than feeling. God sometimes seems to speak to us most intimately when he catches us, as it were, off our guard.
C. S. Lewis

What we call Man's power over Nature turns out to be a power exercised by some men over other men with Nature as its instrument.
C. S. Lewis

With the possible exception of the equator, everything begins somewhere.
C. S. Lewis

You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream.
C. S. Lewis

You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me.
C. S. Lewis

You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.
C. S. Lewis
268 posted on 06/30/2005 2:31:33 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: itsamelman
Thanks for your reply. I have never read Mere Christianity, however, Narnia is occultic and should not be used by Christians to teach about the Lord. I never read a review of Narnia before I saw it and had no preconceived ideas about it. But when I saw it I new it wasn't right.
As far as your qoutes from Lewis, some are good, some are real stinkers.
For instance, consider this new age qoute:
We are what we believe we are.
C. S. Lewis

We are not what we believe we are.
We are what we are.
Otherwise I could be a Bill Gates billionaire or an Indian Jones type adventurer or whatever I want to believe I am. .
Then there this one
What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step.
C. S. Lewis
If he is talking about being saved from eternal damnation then it is not by what we have done, but by what Jesus has done. If he's talking about some guy walking away from a pit of quicksand, then its ok. So this is at worst heresy; at best meaningless (at least without some context).

To reduce God to the level of a beast that negotiates with Satan as in Narnia, is heresy even if it is just for entertainment
. Mere Christianity may or may not be a decent book, it is the work of a man so I hope you haven't made it (or the thoughts of other men)the rock upon which you stand.

Many who call themselves Christians will not read the Bible for themselves. They will read book upon book by their favorite Christian author, saint, preacher but seemingly can't read this one book. Once you know the truth of God's word, its much easier to spot a lie. Theres more I would like to write, because this is important, but I will need to post to you a little later, I have some pressing business. Here's another review of Lewis you may be interested in reading:

http://www.keepersofthefaith.com/BookReviews/BookReviewDisplay.asp?key=4
269 posted on 07/01/2005 7:15:29 AM PDT by 3dognight
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To: 3dognight
Narnia is occultic and should not be used by Christians to teach about the Lord.


Because a crank with a website said so.
270 posted on 07/01/2005 7:52:59 AM PDT by Optimus Prime (Do liberals even qualify as sentient beings?)
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To: 3dognight
I posted the quotes so you could hopefully get a more balanced view of Lewis. You are correct in that many are out of context - particularly "..to take a step" - and many have nothing to do with religion. I didn't edit them from their original source.

And no, I have not made a "rock" out of Lewis or his books. For me, Mere Christianity was like finding a map when I was lost. It wasn't the end or the "pot of gold" but a guide that led me to the real thing - God, Jesus, and the Bible.

For someone who is curious or on the fence about Christianity, it might just be the guide they need to orient them toward the right direction. Lewis addresses many aspects of Christianity that may seem fantastical or nonsensical or simply just myth. In fact, at the end of the book, Lewis implores the reader to basically go to church, to read the Bible, and specifically to *be* a Christian.
271 posted on 07/01/2005 8:05:04 AM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: Optimus Prime

So would you agree with the idea in Narnia that God strikes deals with Satan?


272 posted on 07/01/2005 8:21:44 AM PDT by 3dognight
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