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I can see them lying about leaving Natalee on the beach without being involved in her disappearance. They may not have wanted everyone to know that they had just left her without making sure she got back to the hotel. Evidently, many of the kids stayed up all night around the hotel and beach area. Anyone could have been stalking these kids.

I don't think they have enough proof on the Dutch boy and unless some of the rumors turn out to be true, I would vote not guilty. There was even one kid that said he saw her back at the hotel. There are a lot of unanswered questions in my mind.

Good deductive reasoning. Not getting daily press reports from the Aruban prosecutor has led my colleagues and myself to speculate A-Z based on the sound bytes we have heard and seen repeated; i.e.
"Natalee asked to see the sharks" = she was taken to the shark feeding area
"I can get up by myself" = she was drunk, angry and disoriented.
"we didn't get out of the car" = we drove around in circles
"something bad happened to Natalee"= we killed her

I promise to stop speculating until Natalee is found.
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I can see them lying about leaving Natalee on the beach without being involved in her disappearance. They may not have wanted everyone to know that they had just left her without making sure she got back to the hotel. Evidently, many of the kids stayed up all night around the hotel and beach area. Anyone could have been stalking these kids.

Lying is bad, but to concoct a lie to the police is another matter, especially when Natalee turned up missing. Additionally, they continued in the lie until confronted with proof they were lying. No, this was anything but a mere lie that she was left on the beach.

I don't think they have enough proof on the Dutch boy and unless some of the rumors turn out to be true, I would vote not guilty. There was even one kid that said he saw her back at the hotel. There are a lot of unanswered questions in my mind.

It's evidence which you feel is lacking. I disagree. I saw the pictures Joran had on his website, which he removed the day prior to his arrest. The kid was totally out of control, and in my opinion a sociopath, and that goes to the heart of the evidence, his character. Here is one of the few pictures you will find on the net, but it lacks the drink in his hand found in all the other pictures. You will have to scroll down to the picture. http://blogsfornatalee.com/

Regarding your post #2792. I tend to agree with you. When questioned by the media several weeks ago, a female classmate was asked why someone didn't notice that Natalee was not in her room that night. She said that not everyone was in his/her room. She said, "In fact, I was out by the pool at 5:30 am."