[spectre]

If all of them made contact in the HI casino bar, then they definitely have that on tape.

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[stlnative]

It is very important that we know PVDS had seen and may have had verbal contact with Natalee and Joran inside the HI Casino Bar.

So it is not like PVDS had never seen her before. Now we know he did see her (possibly with his son) and he may have talked to both of them inside the casino.