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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: Palladin
VERY GOOD...Palladin!

I think we agree that Daddy was cleaning up a potential mess...that night.

Bad man!

sw

941 posted on 06/24/2005 3:53:18 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

We will all be shocked and disgusted when we find out what "Judge" Van der Sloot did that night.

As the article I posted above relates--expats usually don't leave their native land just to improve the scenery.

I wonder if the FBI got a look at the elder VDS's rap sheet from Holland.


942 posted on 06/24/2005 3:53:52 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: brigette

<<<<<"Daddy VDS looks like a pervert">>>

He looks like a square headed Dutchman, just like my Dutch friends husband and son. Maybe he is scared and guilty and sweating like a pig but I don't know what you mean by looking like a pervert.


943 posted on 06/24/2005 3:54:58 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: bonfire; spectre
Suppose this, dad & son took advantage of her, she threatened to tell LE & that would ruin the VDS family.....sooooo. dad decided to kill her & dump her body.

LE seems to be zeroing in on the 2 VDS.

944 posted on 06/24/2005 3:55:10 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: bonfire
Maybe the brothers were just doing what Joran said to do...LIE about dropping her off. Maybe it's that simple?

sw

945 posted on 06/24/2005 3:55:30 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: the Deejay

Yep, either both dad and son participated in rape or Dad cleaned up Joran's mess.


Hope we are all WRONG.


946 posted on 06/24/2005 3:56:18 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: spectre

From another thread:

To: rawhide
I think they are saying the fathers involved in some way in the cover up. I read somewhere that the authorities down there checked the dads banking records and found he went to the ATM the night the girl disappeared 3 times at 300 am. and 3.45 am in the morning. Seems strange to need cash that late,but then again it's a party town. But I thought the mom said her husband was sound asleep? Who knows?



13 posted on 06/24/2005 6:31:10 PM EDT by Bush gal in LA


947 posted on 06/24/2005 3:56:48 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Palladin
You may be correct. But it is a roundabout route .

The most likely cause of death is drugs mixed with alcohol. Kid(s) drag Dad in. Blood being thicker than water (and Dad's legal training tells him that no body means most likely means a circumstantial case), Dad became an "accessory after the fact" (though that may not be the Dutch charge) and helped the kid(s) dispose of the body. Sharks are a great help...but some body parts will eventually appear (I hope). Also, hair (except for on my noggin) is ubiqitous. If she was in a car trunk or boat, Natalee's hair is in their somewhere.

But, truth being so much stranger than fiction. I am probably off by a mile.

948 posted on 06/24/2005 3:57:18 PM PDT by Dark Skies (F**k Allah!)
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To: Palladin
Here is the deal: In the US states, a rape that results in a homicide rises to a higher level of penalty... for example in Alabama, it can be the death penalty. (something Aruba does not have). With that said, the use of an illegal substance to incapacitate the victim during a rape shows premeditation. I do not know how Dutch law would treat a premeditated rape that resulted in a homicide, but my guess is... it just might be considered premeditated murder. I could be way off on this... comments anyone??
949 posted on 06/24/2005 3:57:55 PM PDT by Big Jake
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To: spectre

The brothers may truly be innocent. I'll bet Joran never told them what happened to Natalee. Probably only Daddy and Joran know.


950 posted on 06/24/2005 3:57:56 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: spectre
We're thinking the same scenario at the same time.

By George! I do think we've got it! lol!

951 posted on 06/24/2005 3:58:41 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay
Could be.

But then, we haven't discussed the possibility that Paulus may have been so scared, he sold her to Slavery, and shipped her off the island that night.

It only gets worse.

sw

952 posted on 06/24/2005 3:58:42 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Big Jake

You may be right. We need someone here who can tell us about Dutch law!!


953 posted on 06/24/2005 3:59:10 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: spectre

Very possible...see my #948 below for another possibility.


954 posted on 06/24/2005 3:59:20 PM PDT by Dark Skies (F**k Allah!)
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To: Dark Skies

Death from a mixture of drugs and alcohol would be an accident--manslaughter charge...not PREMEDITATED MURDER.

But I am often wrong in my predictions of how these cases will go.


955 posted on 06/24/2005 4:00:25 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: bonfire
Hope we are all WRONG.

I don't think we're far from wrong.....

956 posted on 06/24/2005 4:00:29 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

"I don't think we're far from wrong....."

With Daddy in custody; I don't think we are either.


957 posted on 06/24/2005 4:02:06 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire

Here's that other thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430112/posts

Warning: It contains a lot of naysaying and Greta-bashing.


958 posted on 06/24/2005 4:02:48 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: bonfire
The brothers may truly be innocent. I'll bet Joran never told them what happened to Natalee. Probably only Daddy and Joran know.

I think this is a true statement.

959 posted on 06/24/2005 4:02:48 PM PDT by Big Jake
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To: Palladin

Some ATMs have a cash limit per transaction. He may have had to use it three times each to get enough cash for whatever he was doing.


960 posted on 06/24/2005 4:03:04 PM PDT by agsloss
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