Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
That's a different hypothetical that could take a long time to address -- and I have to leave for the day in a couple of minutes.
But if you're going to throw that idea out, I'll just say that I find the notion that Mr. vdS and his son could have so expeditiously and effectively disposed of a body in the time frame (such as we know it), seems awfully unlikely to me. Not impossible -- just unlikely.
But I have to go, so won't be able to respond to anything about that today.
No, he told him to not say a word You make it sound so sweet. It isn't. Not when things are so incriminating. urin was the last to see her. And daddy didn't want him to help.
Per Jug Twitty during an interview with Greta, Jug stated that he and five friends from Alabama and two policemen from Aruba along with Beth, went to the VDS home at 3:00 am, demanding to "speak" with their son, Joran. Jug stated that the police shined spotlights into the house, yelled for Joran to come out. PVDS was home and Joran supposedley was not. (This was the Alabama posse I referred to last week and was flamed for using that term.)
An innocent person would volunteer information to the distraught parents of a missing girl.
An innocent person would assist in the search for a girl he had spent time with and whose company he innocently enjoyed.
An innocent person would not concoct a tale about two black security guards.
The actions of the Van der Sloots, father and son, do indeed indicate a "consciousness of guilt" to any reasonable person.
DJ I think this is where the father comes in. The Kalpoe brothers were really dumb to back up the "family alibi"!! I don't care what anybody says, I watched that interview, and that father was NOT acting normal in any way whatsoever. He's just as complicit as the son. Bottom line, his purpose is to save his son's A$$ at all costs. I agree with Natalee's mother that the VDS mother is either completely clueless or a great actress.
But I've never heardd Beth or Jug
tell it that way. They said
they (as a group) went straight
to the VDS house @ 3 AM.
Never mentioned finding the VDS
at a casino first.
The Kalpoe brothers are total
idiots!! imo.....one should
never lie to cover-up for a
friend....especially in a
situation like this.
UNLESS....THEY are both
involved.
Thanks for the support!
To me it's disturbing that some conservatives (which most people who post on FR, are) are coming up with such irrational, hysterical, and downright vicious fulminations on this topic. That's something I usually associate with liberals.
Posters calling Joran "Urine" and the van der Sloots "van der SNOOTS" don't strike me as objective observers or analysts, either.
I think we're all of good will toward the Holloways and desperately hope for them that Natalee will be found. So I understand the passion on this topic, but I don't understand conservative FReepers going totally cookoo -- like liberals.
Anyway, I gotta go. Goodnight!
Excuse my tinfoil derby. It was a gift.
Beth said in one of the early interviews that when she first met Joran...rolled car window down and spoke to him, I believe...he was "the most arrogant young man" she ever come in contact with.
No, it was the other way 'round. They went to the home first, then the Casino. Now that I think of it, that was when they found Paul there but not Joran. They asked for Joran and Paul said that he was at a Casino. The group then trouped together to the Casino, and Paul must have gone along to be there when they found Joran and questioned him. That was when Paul was telling Joran, from the getgo, to keep quiet, not to tell them anything.
"arrogant and condesending,"
Beth said.
This? From a retread. LOL!
If she died on the beach, was kidnapped, or died at the home..it's still the same question..."how did her body disappear..did it evaporate?"
It looks like they may never find her body..maybe because there is nothing left of her to find. Stalemate...end of case.
If Joran walks..his life will never be the same. No one will forget.
sw
someone on TV (sorry I don't remember who) said that anyone who is a suspect or even a person of interest should not ever be involved in a search like this. Supposedly it is legally and ethically improper from both sides of the equation. For example: JVS finds something of Natalee's while searching. He could dispose of or otherwise hide the item if it would deflect attention away from him. On the other hand if JVS found something and divulged it, it could used later to make him appear guilty. Basically, JVS participating in the search in any way is a major conflict of interest and both the Holloways and JVS could potentially be harmed by it. I don't have a source, but it does make sense.
He was the last one to see her. There was no "person of interest" at the time. No one accused of anything.
I'm baaaaaaaaack...lol. My ex-dil, whom I adore, will save my a$$ again. She's coming over in the mornng to help me finish ALL of the final packing.
Now, I'll read the thread to see what I've missed.
I'm not so sure the muslims aren't involved somehow here too.
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