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To: txrangerette

But I've never heardd Beth or Jug
tell it that way. They said
they (as a group) went straight
to the VDS house @ 3 AM.

Never mentioned finding the VDS
at a casino first.


3,686 posted on 06/28/2005 2:26:15 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

No, it was the other way 'round. They went to the home first, then the Casino. Now that I think of it, that was when they found Paul there but not Joran. They asked for Joran and Paul said that he was at a Casino. The group then trouped together to the Casino, and Paul must have gone along to be there when they found Joran and questioned him. That was when Paul was telling Joran, from the getgo, to keep quiet, not to tell them anything.


3,693 posted on 06/28/2005 2:37:41 PM PDT by txrangerette
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DJ, the father and son duo were gambling together earlier in the night. The father left to go home at around llpm and he and the son went home. The kid and the Dad supposedly went to bed but the the kid later snuck back out and went to the bar where Natalee was. That was where they met up. It was around lam that Natalee was seen leaving with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers in Deepaks car. After that the Alabama possee ended up at the VDS home and the father couldn't find the son. He called him on his cell phone and the kid said he was gambling at another place. When they got there (father and posse), the kid wasn't there. He phoned him again and the kid then said "Oh I'm back home now"!! (I think this is where the Kalpoe brothers came in, Joran quickly called them for another ride home). Then they ALL met up together and the father stepped in and started saying "Joran, this isn't America, YOU say NOTHING, and it went from there." The father was obnoxious according to Jug Twitty because Natalee's parents were desperate to find her. Her roommate notified the chaparones that Natalee had NOT returned to her room. That was the beginning of this HELL. You can see how sneaky that little VDSlut angel is can't you. First he lied about when and where he Last saw Natalee, then he lied when the father phoned him and asked him where he was, then he, knowing that everyone was coming to talk to him, hightailed it back home to try to evade the meeting at all". It was the persistence of the parents that kept this bunch up all night. That kid lied about where he was when the father first phoned him. He wasn't at the spot he said he was gambling. This is the kind of evidence that the Prosecution has against this kid PLUS all the surveillance and cell records and computer hard drives. Plus a rather Large amount of LIES!!


3,704 posted on 06/28/2005 2:48:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: the Deejay

Sean and Geraldo and Mark Fuhrman are talking about this right now on the radio. And it cleared it up for me. I was right that Paul told them to find Joran at the Casino, but when they got there, Joran was not there. So they phoned the home and said that Joran wasn't at the Casino, and Paul said, oh, he came home while you were looking for him. So they rushed back to the home, which is where they all confronted the father and son about Natalee. Geraldo just laid it out as it happened right at the start. I had it partly right and partly wrong.


3,707 posted on 06/28/2005 2:51:31 PM PDT by txrangerette
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