Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

[PBRSTREETGANG]

"The Octopus is a trimaran (like a catamaran, but with three hulls) owned and operated by Jethro Gesterkamp. Jethro was born in Holland, but his family moved to Aruba when he was a baby. He takes excellent care of the boat, and provides one of the best times on the island. Jethro is one of the best sailors on the island (Captain Anthony from the Tranquilo is the other). He operates strictly under sail power, and the only engine he has is on his dinghy, the “Squid”. For crew he has Jeff, an Aruban who has worked with him for many years, and a girl from Holland who only works the morning cruises. They never overcrowd the boat. They leave from the Pelican pier between the Holiday Inn and Playa Linda."

http://www.aruba-travelguide.com/trip-reports/2003/carol/

[Trust but Verify]

Well that's some burden you bear. If you want to accept responsibility for everything bad that happens, good luck. You'll need it.

[onyx]

I am not ganging up on you. I am merely dismissing the sex slave scenario.

[johnb838]

I think the GHGB overdose is high on my list of possibilities. Girls die all the time from that, and especially someone like NH who may not have been used to having anything more than a couple of beers in her system from what everybody says, and they may not be lying.

Aruba, jamaica, ooo I wanna rape'ya
witha rufee colada... blah blah blah blah blah blah

[kcat]

john, you dreamed that authorities should look at the grandmother. In the Kalpoe's mother's interview she refered to her boys visiting their grandmother and saying remember Mama, we have 2 mothers.

[TexKat]

Teen's Mother 'Devastated' by Aruba Suspect's Release

By PETER PRENGAMAN, AP ORANJESTAD, Aruba (June 28) - Natalee Holloway's mother said Tuesday she was devastated by the release of an Aruba judicial official in the case of her missing daughter because she was convinced he was hiding information.

Aruban police released Paul van der Sloot on Sunday after a judge ruled there was insufficient cause to continue holding him. He was arrested Thursday in the disappearance of the 18-year-old Alabama honors student, reportedly last seen on a beach during the early hours of May 30.

''That was a huge blow to us,'' Beth Holloway Twitty told ABC's ''Good Morning America.'' ''We were devastated.''

Van der Sloot's 17-year-old son, Joran, is one of three young men still in custody.

Meanwhile, Anita van der Sloot, the wife of Paul and mother of Joran, told The Associated Press that the only reason investigators were focusing on her family was because they had ''lost control'' of their case.

''This is an absurdity,'' Anita van der Sloot told the AP. ''What is behind all this? Why are investigators not on other tracks? Is there nothing else there?''

Holloway Twitty said she was convinced Paul van der Sloot knew something after she and others tracked him down soon after Natalee Holloway disappeared while celebrating her graduation from high school in Mountain Brook, Ala.

''I have never sat across from an individual in a well-ventilated room and seen a man sweat so profusely and only increasing in intensity as the 90 minutes (of interviewing) went on,'' she told ''Good Morning America.''

''And to where it would drip on the table and his wife would have to get up and get a kitchen towel and wipe him and wipe the table ... I have never seen anything like that.''

She told CNN's ''American Morning'' that she believes Paul van der Sloot ''knows the answers.''

''I want him to tell the truth,'' she said. ''He knows exactly what happened. He knows what, where, when, who, why and how.''

Anita van der Sloot said she was surprised by Holloway Twitty's comments.

''I can't understand these things,'' she told the AP. ''For her, Joran is guilty and that's it. What can I say to a woman who is desperate to find her daughter?''

She also said authorities were focusing on her son and husband because they, too, were desperate.

''Investigators have lost control (of the case) and don't know what to do anymore,'' she told the AP.

Holloway Twitty told ABC she sleeps every night in her daughter's night shirt in the room where she was staying at the Holiday Inn.

''I have a light on that I have had on since May 30,'' she said. ''And I'm not turning it off until I can get Natalee.''

With hopes fading that fruitless searches may produce a body, volunteers from Texas EquuSearch started a fourth day of work on the Dutch Caribbean island.

On Sunday, the judge also ordered police to free a party boat disc jockey held for nearly a week. His connection to the case was unclear, though the boat on which he worked - the Tattoo - docked near the Holiday Inn.

The other two people detained in the case are brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18. No one has been charged in the case.

AP-NY-06-28-05 1154EDT

[Trust but Verify]

Good. It was not MY scenario. As I said, it has been discussed at length on these threads and it is silly.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Not far from the natural bridge as I recall. About 8 years ago I rented a Suzuki and drove around most of the island.

[the Deejay]

I'm surprised the Aruban authorities have not kicked the media out already.

If this wasn't such a hot issue w/us, they would have done just that weeks ago.

[monkeywrench]

I was at Riehl World, reading comments by island hopper about that.

"Susanlynn the Octopus-Aruba disappeared with crew, the website is down. All unannounced on June 18, 2005. We wonder why? It weems to coincide with the date that Jossy Mansur claims that Natalee was seen on her way to Venezuela. "

"Jossy has STRONG financial ties onthe island and is rumored to have a hand in the prostitution and underground gaming that occurs. PVDS was a pretend Judge that DID hear cases and probably helped his friend Jossy that he had gambling debts too."

Posted by: Island Hopper | June 28, 2005 11:33 AM

[monkeywrench]

More,

"I have to wonder about the Octopus because it was in business in front of the holiday Inn for 18 years."

Posted by: Island Hopper | June 28, 2005 11:38 AM

"I checked with some divers last night and none have heard from jethro. No word at all. He seems to have literally disappeared after 18 years, boat and all. Strange for a known diver."

Posted by: Island Hopper | June 28, 2005 11:40 AM

[Malichi]

Thank you for being the conscience of this thread. When you get finished here there are some things that I did earlier in my life that I wonder if I've felt guilty enough about.

[Malichi]

Thank you for being the conscience of this thread. When you get finished here there are some things that I did earlier in my life that I wonder if I've felt guilty enough about.

[onyx]

The God son connection answers so many questions, doesn't it? Absolutely horrifying and incestuous.

[sarasota]

Blog or no blog, I think that's what probably happened.

[spectre]

No, they didn't "specifically" name the security guards. The authorities fingered them.

I'm pretending that Joran told his buddies to lie for him BECAUSE even the act of deserting her on the beach could have contributed to her abduction. Joran, was after all the responsible party.

I can think of a few reasons why he could have walked away from her, reasons that he wouldn't tell anyone about.

So when he changed his story and told the truth...no one believed him.

Far fetched? Sure it is..but not impossible.

sw

[Malichi]

Worth repeating ;-)

[onyx]

I know they were fingered and not named by their respective names...lol... but that God son business has me reeling today. No wonder J was briefly questioned and released.

[the Deejay]

ROTFLOL!!!!