Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
You are probably right. But wasn't the rumor that JvdS won money that night, correct?
IIRC, Beth has stated a couple of times she thought Natalee was in the house early Monday morning, 3:00am.
And, she sensed Natalee's presence when Beth herself visited the home.
Where did this story that PVDS met Natalee at the casino come from? I listened to Greta and I thought she said Natalee's mother met them at the casino.
The email said he won about $100 back and then stopped.
Of course, all that could be useless information.
sw
Ok... so Beth thinks that Natalee was taken to the VDS home around 3am early Monday morning. When Beth was there some 24 hours later (3:00am Tuesday morning) she had sensed that Natalee had been there or possibly Beth sensed her body was there at that time. Maybe Beth thinks her body was hidden at VDS home, but it took LE 2 weeks after that to search the home.
We don't know if police looked around the home that night at 3am on Tuesday May 31 2005.
I can't even confirm where the story about the early morning ATM withdrawals came from.
The only thing that is relevant about time (IF TRUE), would be that Paul or Joran needed money to pay someone off to do something bad.
Any other ideas?
sw
sw
I heard it too, on Greta last night.
Greta said that Paulus and Joran were at the casino Sunday night. Paulus left the casino at some point and Joran was still there. Then the story skips to Joran calling Paulus from the McD's at 11:00pm to get picked up.
Greta did not know how Joran got to the McD's, but she did state that it's not that far to walk from the casino to McD's.
Her name is Ruth something or something Ruth.
sw
You're timeline is interesting and makes me wonder:
~ 12:30am JVDS, Satish, Deepak arrive at CnC's
~ 1:00am Bar Closes
These guys know that CnC's closes at 1:00pm, yet they go through all the effort of getting there and getting Joran there for 1/2 an hour of socializing.
Hmmmm. Or did they know (premeditate) that there was more to come that night????
don't know
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160385,00.html
VAN SUSTEREN: Ruth, you were present when Natalee met Joran van der Sloot (search), is that right?
RUTH MCVAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FRIEND: That's right.
VAN SUSTEREN: Where were you?
MCVAY: We were in our hotel casino. And that was the first night that she had ever met him. Contrary to other stories that are circulating, she did not know him before that night.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. And when you say the fist night, was that the night of May 29 into the 30th, when she missed her flight home?
MCVAY: Yes, ma'am.
VAN SUSTEREN: And Ruth, how did you happen to notice him? What was it about him that caught your attention?
MCVAY: He didn't. He was sitting at our blackjack table, and he just seemed like a normal teenager. He wasn't flirting. He wasn't really outgoing at all. And Natalee, just in passing, introduced herself and walked off. And nothing was strange or out of the ordinary about him at all.
Yes, that girl said Natalee introduced herself to Joran. I have referred to that conversation before. that is where the conflict among the friends come in. Some said she had been with Joran before; those girls said she was at the same gambling table and got up and introduced herself. So when she really "met" Joran seems to be unknown even among her friends.
from what I understand they were only there a short amount of time. 30 minutes or so.
sw
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