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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: Howlin

You are probably right. But wasn't the rumor that JvdS won money that night, correct?


1,342 posted on 06/25/2005 8:41:18 AM PDT by maggief
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To: brigette

IIRC, Beth has stated a couple of times she thought Natalee was in the house early Monday morning, 3:00am.

And, she sensed Natalee's presence when Beth herself visited the home.


1,343 posted on 06/25/2005 8:44:26 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Peach; spectre; Lizarde

Where did this story that PVDS met Natalee at the casino come from? I listened to Greta and I thought she said Natalee's mother met them at the casino.


1,344 posted on 06/25/2005 8:47:03 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: maggiefluffs

The email said he won about $100 back and then stopped.

Of course, all that could be useless information.


1,345 posted on 06/25/2005 8:47:47 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: CitizenM; Peach
LOL, Citizen. We're melting here in Arkansas as well. It would be fun to all get together at her place..can't think of better group for good conversation. Now, about that air-fare?!!!$$$$

sw

1,346 posted on 06/25/2005 8:47:52 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: maggiefluffs

Ok... so Beth thinks that Natalee was taken to the VDS home around 3am early Monday morning. When Beth was there some 24 hours later (3:00am Tuesday morning) she had sensed that Natalee had been there or possibly Beth sensed her body was there at that time. Maybe Beth thinks her body was hidden at VDS home, but it took LE 2 weeks after that to search the home.

We don't know if police looked around the home that night at 3am on Tuesday May 31 2005.


1,347 posted on 06/25/2005 8:52:02 AM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: Howlin
You're asking ME?! I haven't the slightest.

I can't even confirm where the story about the early morning ATM withdrawals came from.

The only thing that is relevant about time (IF TRUE), would be that Paul or Joran needed money to pay someone off to do something bad.

Any other ideas?

sw

1,348 posted on 06/25/2005 8:53:37 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Howlin
One of Natalee's friends, not Dash, said that Natalee went up to JvdS at the casino and made some comment. I think it was the smaller dark haired girl, two girlfriends were present for the FNC interview.
1,349 posted on 06/25/2005 8:54:34 AM PDT by maggief
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To: brigette
Brig...do you think LE found evidence that Natalee was indeed there at 3AM? An email or something like that on Joran's computer she might have sent? I can't figure it out.

sw

1,350 posted on 06/25/2005 8:57:20 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Howlin
Where did this story that PVDS met Natalee at the casino come from?

I heard it too, on Greta last night.

Greta said that Paulus and Joran were at the casino Sunday night. Paulus left the casino at some point and Joran was still there. Then the story skips to Joran calling Paulus from the McD's at 11:00pm to get picked up.

Greta did not know how Joran got to the McD's, but she did state that it's not that far to walk from the casino to McD's.

1,351 posted on 06/25/2005 8:57:53 AM PDT by Velveeta (www.takebackthememorial.org)
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To: maggiefluffs; Howlin

Her name is Ruth something or something Ruth.


1,352 posted on 06/25/2005 8:58:48 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Howlin
This is the way I understand it (compiled from reading here and other boards)

Police have video of JVDS and Natalee being in the casino on Saturday. (Not sure if it shows them actually making contact)

Some of her friends say she was seen near him in the casino 2 days before she came up missing.

Some other friends say she talked to him Sunday night at the casino. There is video also of this that the police have.

Deepak says in the email (don't know if the email is real) that Joran told him he met her on Sunday at the HI casino.

Greta said on her show last night that there was contact between JVDS, PVDS and Natalee in the HI Casino on Sunday night in the bar area of the casino.
1,353 posted on 06/25/2005 8:59:32 AM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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OR..Joran might have taken a digital picture of her with the time and date on it? He wouldn't be so stupid to have saved it if he did, would he?

sw

1,354 posted on 06/25/2005 8:59:38 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: brigette

You're timeline is interesting and makes me wonder:

~ 12:30am JVDS, Satish, Deepak arrive at CnC's
~ 1:00am Bar Closes

These guys know that CnC's closes at 1:00pm, yet they go through all the effort of getting there and getting Joran there for 1/2 an hour of socializing.

Hmmmm. Or did they know (premeditate) that there was more to come that night????


1,355 posted on 06/25/2005 9:00:47 AM PDT by Velveeta (www.takebackthememorial.org)
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To: spectre

don't know


1,356 posted on 06/25/2005 9:00:50 AM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: maggiefluffs; Howlin

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160385,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: Ruth, you were present when Natalee met Joran van der Sloot (search), is that right?

RUTH MCVAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FRIEND: That's right.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where were you?

MCVAY: We were in our hotel casino. And that was the first night that she had ever met him. Contrary to other stories that are circulating, she did not know him before that night.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. And when you say the fist night, was that the night of May 29 into the 30th, when she missed her flight home?

MCVAY: Yes, ma'am.

VAN SUSTEREN: And Ruth, how did you happen to notice him? What was it about him that caught your attention?

MCVAY: He didn't. He was sitting at our blackjack table, and he just seemed like a normal teenager. He wasn't flirting. He wasn't really outgoing at all. And Natalee, just in passing, introduced herself and walked off. And nothing was strange or out of the ordinary about him at all.


1,357 posted on 06/25/2005 9:01:00 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs

Yes, that girl said Natalee introduced herself to Joran. I have referred to that conversation before. that is where the conflict among the friends come in. Some said she had been with Joran before; those girls said she was at the same gambling table and got up and introduced herself. So when she really "met" Joran seems to be unknown even among her friends.


1,358 posted on 06/25/2005 9:01:47 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Velveeta

from what I understand they were only there a short amount of time. 30 minutes or so.


1,359 posted on 06/25/2005 9:01:56 AM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: brigette
If all of them made contact in the HI casino bar, then they definitely have that on tape.

sw

1,360 posted on 06/25/2005 9:02:15 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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