1 posted on
06/23/2005 7:30:08 AM PDT by
Helmholtz
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To: Helmholtz
"Hillary Clinton: "We're Going to Take Things Away From You on Behalf of the Common Good""Boy, that Hillary sure was psychic on this wasn't she?
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91 posted on
06/23/2005 8:09:13 AM PDT by
Enterprise
(Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
To: Helmholtz
I thought they were already doing this with the confiscatory property tax rates that magically go up 10% every year. Note to self: Collect more ammo...
100 posted on
06/23/2005 8:10:28 AM PDT by
Liberty Valance
(Every day above ground is a good day)
To: Helmholtz
What's really new about this? Didn't the US gov
basically do this during the 1800's to build the railroads?
101 posted on
06/23/2005 8:10:38 AM PDT by
indthkr
To: Helmholtz
"For the Public Good". How many times have we seen this as the pretext for Gov't tyranny and the impoverishment of the many for the enrichment of the few?
Property rights are the foundation of a Free Society and this is yet another step by the courts to increase Gov't involvement in and control over virtually every facet of our lives.
106 posted on
06/23/2005 8:11:03 AM PDT by
drt1
To: Helmholtz
It is now official we do not own property, we rent it from the government.
107 posted on
06/23/2005 8:11:12 AM PDT by
TXBSAFH
(One man's Linux is another man's OS/2.)
To: Helmholtz
Well states Do have to pay you. Are there any guidelines regarding this? State or 3rd party appraiser?
To: Helmholtz; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
To: Helmholtz
Article XVII of the Declaration of Rights of Man and of Citizens (France):
"Property being an inviolable and sacred right, no one can be deprived of private usage, if it is not when the public necessity, legally noted, evidently requires it, and under the condition of a just and prior indemnity."
Today's ruling is one more example of the terrible paradox that America is a great country with terrible laws and a terrible legal system. US Americans would be better off with French law than with their own random and reckless judicial regime.
115 posted on
06/23/2005 8:12:09 AM PDT by
Vicomte13
(Et alors?)
To: Helmholtz
I propose Kennedy Kompaund will be taken and turned into publik shopping mall to serve the people! People power! Long live People's United States of Amerika!
Vote the bastRATs out!!
To: Helmholtz
Welcome to the REAL Gulag, Senator Turd-bin Laden!
We are having our CONSTITUTION RIPPED AWAY daily...
We are ALL now no more than serfs!
Fine! If the G-D Gub'Mint OWNS my land, and can take it away from me on a whim...then THEY pay the taxes and servicing of it!
Why the HELL should I do ANYTHING anymore!
Constitutional Rights do NOT apply when the 9 ROBED NAZGUL roam the land at will, let alone all the MINOR NAZGUL in Courts across the land!
Revolution is a' brewin'...and this one will make the Civil War look like Compton on a Saturday Night!
They may have surrenderd my rights...but I HAVE NOT surrendered my G_D GIVEN Rights under the Constitution!
I say we begin by IMPEACHING SOUTER AND Ruth (Bader-Meinhoff)GINSBURG!
Seems like the summer's gonna get a LOT hotter!
118 posted on
06/23/2005 8:13:01 AM PDT by
Itzlzha
("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
To: Helmholtz
Well this one does it for me, I now consider the SC an enemy of the US Constitution, the US Constitution is the law of the land, the oligarchy under which we find ourself is not a legitimate government.
123 posted on
06/23/2005 8:14:17 AM PDT by
jpsb
(I already know I am a terrible speller)
To: Helmholtz
Proving once again that the supreme court justices do not understand the Constitution, or they feel it is "elastic."
And yet, we still keep voting for the same two parties that appoint these justices.
To: Helmholtz
Why is this so shocking? We really don't own property anyway...we lease it from the county governments in the form of property taxes. We pay a real estate transfer tax when we lease it and terminate the lease. Yeah...this stinks...its stunk for the last few decades...glad some have taken notice.
130 posted on
06/23/2005 8:16:52 AM PDT by
BureaucratusMaximus
(Socialists are blessed with the desire to serve others. That's why most of them work @ McDonalds)
To: Helmholtz
Sounds like the liberal judges have found their response to Bush's desire for an "ownership society". Whatever we own is now subject to whim of local governments and the private investors who feed them.
To: Helmholtz
Can you spell R E V O L U T I O N !
I didn't think so. The sheeple have lulled into a coma and nothing will stop the tyrants now.
Coming up, the governments "right" to take away your guns.
153 posted on
06/23/2005 8:21:08 AM PDT by
unixfox
(AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
To: Helmholtz
Without having read the opinion (I don't see it on the
Court's slip system), it appears that the definition of "public use" in the 5th Amendment has shifted from the direct use of the public at large ("...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation") to a more derivative "public good" derived from "more taxes collected are more 'public good' created". But let's see what the opinion actually says, and maybe there is a further legal basis for this appalling decision.
But I have to say that the notions of property seem to have gone back to the days of the English monarchy, with the new-old doctrines of property somehow being capable of itself being 'criminal' and thus forfeitable, and now an eminent domain that appears to be capricious in the extreme.
To: Helmholtz
WHAT THE HELL PEOPLE!?!?
Totally f'ing unacceptable.
161 posted on
06/23/2005 8:22:39 AM PDT by
Constitution Day
(Emphatically eschew exclamatory excess.)
To: Helmholtz
If that's the case, then they should pay the fair market value for that property. Right now, govts. condemn the property and then buy it from you at pennies on the dollar. You either have to accept or have the cops seize it and throw you off of it (and probably into jail).
Welcome to the former USSR/Nazi Germany, where the govt. can just snap their fingers, take away your personal property, and pay you next to nothing. Very nice.
168 posted on
06/23/2005 8:24:06 AM PDT by
Excuse_My_Bellicosity
("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
To: Helmholtz
I'm very interested to read the opinion. It's not yet available...
172 posted on
06/23/2005 8:25:22 AM PDT by
Fury
To: Helmholtz
I believe that China now has more respect for private property than this country.
The descent into rot continues.
174 posted on
06/23/2005 8:25:34 AM PDT by
tomahawk
(http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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