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Top Civil War Battlefields
Town Hall ^ | June 23, 2005 | Marvin Olasky [Creators Syndicate]

Posted on 06/22/2005 9:43:16 PM PDT by quidnunc

Now that it's officially summer, here's my advice to parents who want to continue teaching their kids during the next two months and learn something themselves: visit Civil War battlefields. I probably overdid it with my own children, visiting about 35 in all, but here are my top five:

1. Gettysburg (July 1863)

Much as I'd like to make a surprise choice, there's no avoiding Gettysburg's primacy and sadness, with over 50,000 soldiers becoming casualties over three days.

Driving and walking this Pennsylvania battlefield explains much: the big rocks of Devil's Den were indeed devilish, and the awesome difficulty of "Pickett's Charge" — across a vast expanse, sloping slightly uphill — makes it seem that Robert E. Lee's hope that day was for God to intervene. (That's what Michael Shaara suggested in his fine novel, "The Killer Angels"; it's well worth reading before a Gettysburg visit.)

2. Antietam (September 1862)

The 30-acre Maryland cornfield through which soldiers charged and countercharged is still a cornfield; the farm road worn down by erosion and called Sunken Road until it gained a new name at the battle, Bloody Lane, is also a good place to meditate on 23,000 casualties incurred in one day.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chancellorsville; dixie; franklin; fredericksburg; gettysburg; sharpsburg; shiloh
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To: quidnunc

This guy is clueless.

I experienced Civil War battlefields the opposite way from how he did. My parents didn't drag me to them. I dragged THEM to them.

What I found was that no 150-year-old field tells the story of that era. The truth of what happened can only be found in the writings of those who lived at that time.


41 posted on 06/23/2005 12:16:34 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Capriole

In the 8th grade I created a history project by taking moody slides of the battlefield, interspersing them with photos of living and dead young soldiers and setting it to music.
The song was the heart-rending "Home" by Mac Davis.
Halfway through the 4 minute presentation, the teacher made me shut it down.

Too haunting and emotional for 13 year olds.


42 posted on 06/23/2005 12:25:19 AM PDT by Salamander (Tom Fury knows!)
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To: Coleus
Was it really a civil war, I thought the south was just trying to Secede and not try to overthrow Washington DC?

Yep. The South was fighting for states rights and today we are still in that battle.

43 posted on 06/23/2005 12:40:43 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: babble-on
My wife and I did some metal detecting at a new home construction site just off Battery Lane in Nashville along the last line of the Battle of Nashville. We found part of a 4-inch cannon ball, on the Confederate side, presumably fired from one of the big Napolean's of the federal forces.

I have visited a number of Civil War sites. The most moving I have visited is Shiloh, which is probably the most complete and undisturbed of all the sites. It is huge and has an enormous number of cannons throughout the park..

44 posted on 06/23/2005 12:56:36 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Morgan's Raider
Although I agree with the article that the five battlefields are a great set to visit IF you can only visit five, I do have a special appreciation for Lookout Mountain.

My great-grandfather was a young Private in an Indiana artillery battery, and fought in the battle to take the mountain. I visited the site a year ago, and tried to imagine what it would have been like for him during the attack. The personal connection to the location adds a new dimension to the experience.

45 posted on 06/23/2005 1:00:53 AM PDT by StevieB
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To: GVgirl

I saw them too.


46 posted on 06/23/2005 3:52:23 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: GVgirl
Gettysburg is haunted.

Agreed. I have visited the field twice. The first time was without incident. The second time was July 3.

It was sunny and about 90 degrees outside but when we got to the Wheatfield and Devil's Den, for some reason, it got freezing cold. Other people we talked to at the visitor center believed something was a bit "off" that day as well.

47 posted on 06/23/2005 4:30:48 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: nonliberal

Lookout Mountain is haunted, too.


48 posted on 06/23/2005 5:20:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Capriole
You can't say that on this forum! If you do, you'll be called an environmentalist whacko, a green Nazi, anti-business, anti-free enterprise, anti-property rights.

I can't recall any threads like that, but I'll take your word for it. I will say that I engaged a hysterical woman from the Gettysburg area in a debate about the Battlefield restoration there. She was a borderline "greenie" that was AGAINST the restoration of the Battlefield because it involved logging certain tracts to restore the tree line to its "1863 look". I'm generally in favor of the Park Service's efforts in this regard, though I must say that I miss the observation tower.

49 posted on 06/23/2005 5:55:23 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tax-chick

Wouldn't doubt that at all. I also would not want to hang out around the Sunken Road at Antietam during the night.


50 posted on 06/23/2005 6:37:39 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: nonliberal

Driving home from Chattanooga once, when we lived in Tennessee, I got the shakes so bad I had to stop on the side of the interstate for 20 minutes.

I've never been to Sharpsburg. My husband and I were going to go once, but we made a wrong turn and ended up in Manassas. The battlefield was closed (it was the year of the Gingrich government shut down - and I wish he'd held the line, too!), so we spent the day at the city museum and the antique shops.


51 posted on 06/23/2005 6:41:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Tallguy
though I must say that I miss the observation tower.

I don't. The only purpose that thing served was that it was an excellent reference point when orienting the map.

"See that line of trees just below the ugly grey tower?"

52 posted on 06/23/2005 6:42:01 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Maybe I have "protection" from my ancestors who fought there, but I've never noticed a thing on Chickamauga Battlefield, day or night, and I've spent a lot of time there.

My kids have a great time there, when they were very small I told them they weren't allowed to climb on the cannons, but they could climb on "Grandpa Dent's cannons" (if nobody was looking).

53 posted on 06/23/2005 6:50:25 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Tallguy
I can't recall any threads like that. . .

Oh my word, EVERY thread about development and sprawl end up the same way. I say I am opposed to strip-malls being built on historic areas and I'm torn to pieces, with the pro-development wolves here falling on me as on a sick deer.

The greenie in Gettysburg was an ignorant fool, as most of them are. We do need to take down some trees to restore the battlefield to its original condition. Pennsylvania will still have plenty of trees. But if we're going for real authenticity there we need to take down the Wax Museum, the McDonald's, and the KFC--and that's not going to happen. This is my point exactly: once those things go in, they're there for good; you can't get the historic site back.

54 posted on 06/23/2005 6:52:12 AM PDT by Capriole (I don't have any problems that couldn't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition)
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To: SittinYonder

Thought you'd like to see this ping.


55 posted on 06/23/2005 6:52:55 AM PDT by eyespysomething ( A penny saved is a government oversight)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
I haven't been to any sites on this list, but I do have to say that I recommend the Battle of Franklin in Franklin, Tennessee. Some historians say that Franklin had the single bloodiest hour of the Civil War and the whole war should have ended after that rather than drag on another 5 months.

My great-grandfather's brother was killed in that battle. It was a bloody one.

56 posted on 06/23/2005 6:55:39 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Life is like a cow pasture, it's hard to get through without stepping in some mess.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Franklin battlefield is largely built over, but evocative nonetheless.


57 posted on 06/23/2005 7:00:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Capriole
I'm with you. Historic areas need to be preserved -- there are damn few of them left.

I live in Atlanta, which is of course notorious for wrecking out historic sites. Most of the Battle of Atlanta has disappeared under urban development . . . little bits survive here and there, but you have to know where they are. Our house sits just below Johnston's River Line north of the Chattahoochee -- there are earthworks all up and down the woods in back of us. When we were looking for a house, we looked at one that had a whole complex of trenches and gun emplacements in the back yard. The house was impossible, so we didn't buy it, but somebody did -- and built a garage on top of the gun emplacement! (Idiots. Figures that idiots would buy that awful house.)

58 posted on 06/23/2005 7:01:13 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: eyespysomething

Very surprised Chickamauga isn't on the list. In terms of preservation and ability to see what it was like, Chickamauga is among the best (outside Gettysburg and maybe one or two others). But certainly it should rank in the top 5.

Prolly didn't make the list because we chased them d**n Yankees back to Tennessee at Chickamauga and Dr. Olasky prolly doesn't want to advertise that fact.


59 posted on 06/23/2005 7:06:03 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: eyespysomething

I'll also add that the Wilderness battles were fought on and around my g-g-g-g-g-g-g grandpa's farm. They destroyed the farm and family sold it 10 - 20 years after the War of Northern Aggression.

I've never been, but I'd like to. More to see the farm than the battlefield. And our son's namesake lost his arm at the battle of Vicksburg.


60 posted on 06/23/2005 7:09:57 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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