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I don't care why they hate us, just as long as they fear us.
1 posted on 06/22/2005 8:34:50 PM PDT by SmithL
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Rove is right and liberals just don't get it. I still remember 9-11 when I got in and a friend told me to turn the radio on and said a plane had just hit the first tower. I also remember shortly after the towers fell some bleeding heart already talking about how "we asked for it". More US dollars flow to the Middle than probably from any other nation and we get blamed for MiddleEastern poverty, and MiddleEastern hate. If we weren't buying oil who would give a damn about the MiddleEast and yet we are to blame. Did we preach the hate? Did we raise our children to strap bombs to themselves? I think that anyone who blames American first is insane but then again they blame Walmart, they blame capitalists, and they blame the religious right. They have plenty of blame for everyone but those who are violent and want to kill us. Like Dick Durbin and the other rabid leftists and those they have misplaced sympathy for, it isn't that they are misunderstood, it is because we understand exactly what they say and what they plan and that we disagree and are willing to fight against them that they are upset about.
I heard Howard Dean talking on PBS tonight about how the Democratic party has more in common with evangelicals and religious communities and tennants than the Republican party and I revealed at how he said it with a straight face. It was if he thinks that religious people are dolts, and he went on to say that the Republican party didn't understand charity. I have yet to understand that one, Jesus did not go around confiscating other people's money to do God's work. That is where Democrats just don't get it, charity is charity because one chooses to give not because you choose for other people to give. The worst Evangelical is better than Howard Dean and his ilk because one has the choice to turn the evangelical off and ignore them and their offerings of love gifts for your hard earned cash, ignoring Howard Dean on the other hand is dangerous because he will recruit the federal law to compel you be charitable.


35 posted on 06/22/2005 9:33:32 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm
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"I don't care why they hate us, just as long as they fear us."


I think I know why, they hate us because we are free and choose to stand in their way. To say no to them. Thats all it is. We stand in their way. And it drives them mad.
Islamic rule of Earth is what they want and believe, the koran a constitution for earth. Democracy the enemy of Islam. This is what the radical islamo facists believe and we have already seen how far they will go thinking they can actually achieve it.
Their hatred truly has nothing to do with us, it belongs to them alone, its ancient, it pre-dates us. We will never let them succeed or continue to act towards those goals without great and dire consequence.

There is no other way but to destroy them. They chose their path, it was their choice all along. I also believe their are many brave Iraqis and Afghans and other muslims in the world that truly want change. Too many people have helped us, sacrificed with us, and died next to our soldiers for that not to be true. Bush was right, people will always choose to be free.


I am ever astounded and grateful at the courage of the volunteers that fight these enemys of civilization. They are heroes now and always. Words always fail. I send money to help the military folks when I can.

Also, we must never stop trying to reach our fellow Americans and do whatever we can to help them to understand all this. I know its frustrating, and probably futile sometimes. But thats not the point. We must keep trying, and trying new ways to reach our fellow Americans whose minds have been warped by liberalism. They are our brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, friends. People do change, I've seen it, I've had a part in it. It can take years, but it CAN happen. I know this for fact.
Its tough, and I feel like giving up trying to reach them sometimes too, but I truly believe we are winning this front too. You never know who is reading what we say, we must always have patience and put our best arguements out there.


36 posted on 06/22/2005 9:33:54 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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"I don't care why they hate us, just as long as they fear us."
Yep, but the degree of fear needs to be continually increased, ultimately to the point when they would literally die from fear, and then a bit more. Otherwise [i.e. unless and until they all die out from fear] one needs to be on perpetual guard against them.
41 posted on 06/22/2005 10:08:23 PM PDT by GSlob
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One of the reasons that Muslims hate us is that most of us are onto them. We know they hate us and want to conquer us and we have the statements to prove it.

Also, they know that in most European countries and Australia it is against the law for citizens to speak out against them. Here in America most of us don't give a damn, pass a law and we will still speak out.

Not only will we speak out but if you attack us we will retaliate.
44 posted on 06/22/2005 11:33:31 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Longer Article on the AP

Karl Rove Says Democrats Didn't Understand Consequences of Sept. 11 Attacks

By Sam Dolnick Associated Press Writer
Published: Jun 23, 2005 NEW YORK (AP) - Speaking in a ballroom just a few miles north of ground zero, Karl Rove said the Democratic party did not understand the consequences of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers," Rove said Wednesday night. "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser, spoke at the state Conservative Party's annual dinner. He praised the conservative movement's success, calling it "the guiding philosophy for the White House, the Senate, the House."

Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for "moderation and restraint" after the terrorist attacks.

"Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies. Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies."

Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting American troops in greater danger. Durbin has since apologized for the remarks.

"No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals," Rove said.

AP-ES-06-23-05 0317EDT

45 posted on 06/23/2005 12:35:50 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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Well hell, I could have told you that 3 years ago. And honestly, even I was a little late in coming to that conclusion. It took me a couple of months, probably around January of 2002, to realize that very, very few Dems learned the lesson.


46 posted on 06/23/2005 1:08:46 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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"Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

I was out of country on 9/11.

Not long after I returned, I had guests for dinner. I was amazed when these folks refused to accept my assertion that we were at war.


47 posted on 06/23/2005 4:13:38 AM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970)
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I don't care why they hate us, just as long as they fear us.

The terrorists, or the democrats?

49 posted on 06/23/2005 4:24:01 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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"I don't care why they hate us, just as long as they fear us"

It's not enough to have superior firepower; it's not enough that our enemy knows we have superior firepower; it's not enough that our enemy knows we will use superior firepower; no, our enemies need to know that we ENJOY using superior firepower.


51 posted on 06/23/2005 4:40:16 AM PDT by Right Angler
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CONTINUATION:


Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for ''moderation and restraint'' after the terrorist attacks.

''Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies. Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies.''

Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting American troops in greater danger. Durbin has since apologized for the remarks.

''No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals,'' Rove said.

52 posted on 06/23/2005 5:05:36 AM PDT by OESY
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Rove: Democrats Didn't Understand 9/11 Consequences

AP via Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050623/ap_on_re_us/rove_speech;_ylt=AlkUjByBv.6CAXcPaMmDGgas0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-


NEW YORK - Speaking in a ballroom just a few miles north of ground zero, Karl Rove said the Democratic party did not understand the consequences of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers," Rove said Wednesday night. "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser, spoke at the state Conservative Party's annual dinner. He praised the conservative movement's success, calling it "the guiding philosophy for the White House, the Senate, the House."

Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for "moderation and restraint" after the terrorist attacks.

"Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies. Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies."

Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting American troops in greater danger. Durbin has since apologized for the remarks.

"No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals," Rove said.


55 posted on 06/23/2005 6:07:34 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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Liberals Demand Rove Quit Telling The Truth About Them


Karl Rove gets it:

Karl Rove came to the heart of Manhattan last night to rhapsodize about the decline of liberalism in politics, saying Democrats responded weakly to Sept. 11 and had placed American troops in greater danger by criticizing their actions.
"Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers,"


Of course this put the most whiny member of the Senate, Chucky Schumer into a tailspin:

"The one thing New York has had since Sept. 11 is unity," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "To inject politics into this and to defame a large number of people" is outrageous, he said. "It's not what New York and America is all about."
"Senator Unity" has a short memory. He forgot when he was leading Democrats trying to tear down Bush over the infamous Presidential Daily Briefing:

After Rice's testimony, Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York criticized the Bush administration for not acknowledging what he described as mistakes.
"Unfortunately, we did not hear from Dr. Rice three important words: 'We made mistakes.' Of course we made mistakes," Schumer said.

"This administration made mistakes, the previous administration made mistakes. But the inability of this administration and of the national security adviser to admit that mistakes were made makes us fear that we will make future mistakes."


So much for not making 9/11 political. What really has Senator Unity hacked off is that Rove told the truth about him. And sometimes, the truth hurts.


-- Paul, wizbangblog.com
66 posted on 06/23/2005 10:06:32 AM PDT by OESY
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Good work, Rove - direct hit!


84 posted on 06/23/2005 5:25:40 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Loud music was played at Waco. So are Clinton & Reno = Hitler/Stalin/ Pol-Pot, Senator Durbin?)
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