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D.C. Council's Schwartz: Ban Alcohol Along with Smoking in Bars (The Next Logical Step)
Washington Business Journal ^ | 6/21/2005 | Tim Lemke

Posted on 06/21/2005 11:16:06 AM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: ellery

Oh bullcrap. I've heard that speculation, it's nothing compared to the lives destroyed by the scourge of alcolholism.


141 posted on 06/21/2005 7:51:37 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: Modernman
We were at a sushi bar the other night and the kid at the next table (who the hell brings a kid to a sushi bar?) decided to take off her dress and strip down to her diaper. She was maybe 2 years old. The parents just let her do it. It boggles the mind.

I would be willing to put money on it that these same people are fully in favor of such things as the smoking bans, and other big Brother initiatives.

some people just don't understand the difference between family friendly and adult friendly places. I would no more take my child to a sushi bar than eat glass, even though she loves sushi.

142 posted on 06/21/2005 8:13:48 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Thanks for the ping!


143 posted on 06/21/2005 8:25:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: brooklyn dave

Are you being sarcastic too?


144 posted on 06/21/2005 8:25:56 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Lord_Baltar

She DOES have an R after her name.


145 posted on 06/21/2005 8:27:19 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: SheLion

Im pissed at Bush for the opposite reason of the Nazis-namely, that he won't take a stand for OUR (smokers) freedoms! Especially since Lovely Laura (and I don't mean that sarcastically) is a smoker. She admitted it in a book last year, so it's true. Yet niether of them try to stop the madness. But, then, who's going to tell her to put her cigarette out?


146 posted on 06/22/2005 2:03:30 AM PDT by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: hosepipe

Thanks for that little jaunt down memory lane. That was a great movie, wsan't it?


147 posted on 06/22/2005 2:28:17 AM PDT by Badray
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To: The Foolkiller

Im pissed at Bush for the opposite reason of the Nazis-namely, that he won't take a stand for OUR (smokers) freedoms! Especially since Lovely Laura (and I don't mean that sarcastically) is a smoker. She admitted it in a book last year, so it's true. Yet niether of them try to stop the madness. But, then, who's going to tell her to put her cigarette out?

I know it!  But I never mention it for fear of being flamed by people for mentioning that our lovely First Lady smokes.

When she first married George, they would visit her in-laws in Kennebunkport.  The whole family was out in the yard playing some kind of sports.  Laura was sitting in a rocker on the porch watching, with her book and her cigarettes.

Barbara Bush ask her if she wanted to join in the sports?  Laura said "No, I am quite happy sitting here reading and watching them and having a cigarette.

She is one of the most beautiful women in the world and smoking isn't going to diminish that fact.


148 posted on 06/22/2005 5:34:43 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: jjmcgo

who is pasqual perez? I don't understand your comment.

:*?


149 posted on 06/22/2005 7:37:28 AM PDT by peacebaby (We can't become what we need to be by remaining what we are. Oprah Winfrey)
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To: peacebaby

Read this story. Atlanta Braves pitcher Pascual Perez got on I-285 to go to the ballpark to make his first major-league start, didn't know which exit to get off at and circled the city until his car ran out of gas.

http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/P/Perez_Pascual.stm


150 posted on 06/22/2005 9:27:55 AM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: jjmcgo

very funny story. I'm wondering how bright the guy is.


151 posted on 06/22/2005 9:39:36 AM PDT by peacebaby (We can't become what we need to be by remaining what we are. Oprah Winfrey)
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To: stands2reason

She's a jerk


152 posted on 06/22/2005 11:37:43 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Bring Down the Mullahcracy in Iran)
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To: johnb838

Go back to your hole and close the lid real tight.


153 posted on 06/22/2005 11:39:28 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Bring Down the Mullahcracy in Iran)
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To: brooklyn dave

What is that supposed to mean? I think that sounds kind of offensive, Dave.


154 posted on 06/22/2005 12:18:56 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: Badray
[ Thanks for that little jaunt down memory lane. That was a great movie, wasn't it? ]

Yeah...
The point being, moral busybodies, are always busy, even if in their own minds.. And with "moralty" coming from so many bases, only a mish mash can be expected.. To get morality comeing from a single base one has the look to Islam and Sharia Law..

Which is Mob Rule.. and the democratic socialism of the Mobs "Moral Protection Racket".., protecting from the Infidels and their mishmash of morality.. and totally BLIND to the immorality of the Mullahs..

And OH!... so very up to date.. All American political partys are operated by moral busybodies.. Is that bad.?. Just Look around and you'll find a moral busybody group that you can agree with.. I have..

**NOTE- Libertarians are anti-Moral busybodies(as are the Anarchists).. and are for forcing ANY morality NOT to be made law.. producing bizarro morality.. although they would deny it.. Denial can be another form of morality..

155 posted on 06/22/2005 12:33:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Pyro7480

"I never thought I could ban drinking just because I didn't like it, but now I know I can," Schwartz says in a lengthy, satirical statement. "The impending smoking ban has empowered me."

Positively Clintonian -- I'm doing it because I can! What is that saying about power corrupting absolutely?
Un-freakin'-believable!! No alcohol can be served in a bar?? I think this NAG-HAG has been smoking something herself!


156 posted on 06/22/2005 12:48:12 PM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Polyxene

Re-read the article. She's making a point. She's opponent of a proposed smoking ban.


157 posted on 06/22/2005 12:53:09 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: johnb838
Uh, "speculation?" No. Study after study have shown that, for example, red wine in moderation prevents heart disease, stroke and cancer. These diseases kill millions more people every year than alcoholism.

Your idea that many, many more people should die (or die earlier) of heart disease, stroke and cancer just because a small fraction of the population can't drink in moderation is just plain ignorant. It's not uncommon, though -- many "health organizations" have been reluctant to recommend moderate consumption for fear of seeming to encourage overindulgence. Counterproductive zero-tolerance at work -- feelings rather than facts.

Here's a list of only a small fraction of the research in this area:

Clement, M.V., Hipara, J. L., Chawdhury S. H., Pervaiz, S. (1998, August 1) Chemopreventive agent resveratrol, a natural product derived from grapes, triggers CD95 signaling-dependent apoptosis in human tumor cells. Blood, 92(3), 996-1002.

Cos, P., De Bruyne, T., Apers, S., Vanden Berghe, D., Pieters, L., Vlietinck, A. J. (2003) Phytoestrogens: Recent developments. Planta Medica, 69, 589-599.

Goldberg, I. J., Mosca, L., Piano, M. R., Fisher, E. A. (2001, January 23). Wine and your heart [electronic version]. Circulation, 103(3), 472-475. Retrieved September 20, 2003, from circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/103/3/472.

Kris-Etherton, P., Hecker, K. D., Bonanome, A., Coval, S. M., Binkoski, A. E., Hilpert, K. F., Griel, A. E., Etherton, T. D. (2002, December 30). Bioactive compounds in foods: Their role in the prevention of cardiovascular disease and cancer. The American Journal of Medicine, 113(Suppl 9B), 71S-88S.

Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research. (2002, August 27). Alcohol and your health: Weighing the pros and cons. Retrieved September 20, 2003, from www.mayoclinic.com/invoke.cfm?id=SC00024.

ScienceDaily. (2000, October 16.) Grapes or grain? Wine drinking may reduce colon cancer risk; beer, hard liquor provide no benefit. Retrieved September 20, 2003, from www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/10/001018221332.htm.

ScienceDaily. (2003, September 9.) New cholesterol fighter found in red wine. Retrieved September 20, 2003, from www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/09/030909070840.htm.

Wallerath, T., Poleo, D., Li, H., Förstermann, U. (2003, February 5). Red wine increases the expression of human endothelial nitric oxide synthesis [electronic version]. Journal of the American College of Cardiology, 41(3), 471-478. Retrieved September 20, 2003, from www.acc.org/media/releases/highlights/2003/feb03/wine.pdf.

Waterhouse, A.L. (1995, May 1.) Wine and heart disease [electronic version]. Chemistry & Industry, 338-341. Retrieved September 20, 2003, from wineserver.ucdavis.edu/cuttingedge/research/winehealth.htm.

Wu, J. M. & Hsieh, T. C. (2000). Possible role of resveratrol in prevention of prostate carcinogenesis [electronic version]. Cancer Detection and Prevention, 24(Suppl 1). Retrieved September 20, 2003, from www.cancerprev.org/Journal/Issues/24/101/408/3442.

158 posted on 06/22/2005 2:01:33 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: brooklyn dave

Why do you say that? I think she makes a good point. Are you an anti-smoker?


159 posted on 06/22/2005 3:51:30 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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